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post #91 of 97
3/25/07 at 5:22pm
Joe, I too hope you stick around. You're obviously knowledgeable and most likely quite skilled.

Just try to open your mind a little. We will too.
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post #92 of 97
3/25/07 at 5:36pm
Joe i hope the best for you... stick around and i hope you learn...
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post #93 of 97
3/26/07 at 2:36pm
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Originally Posted by joegm View Post
there seems to be an astoundingly high number of arrogant people in the sport...
it becomes almost a sport sitting a 6 or 8 man gondola on a 7 or 8 minute ride and having to listen to some of the astounding nonsense that can come out of people's mouths.
I'm not sure what the difference is between riding in a gondola and lsitening to nonsense and reading what you and HS write is?

World cup mogul skiing is going the way of aerials. It is becoming more and more disconnected from it's origins and from skiing. These are the only guys left skiing on straight skis. Squeezing your knees together as tight as you can while running the ruts certainly takes a lot of athleticism but as skiing it's rather ho hum.

When guys like Brooksbank, Clendenin, Wong etc started 'freestyle" including bump skiing they did it with style and flair. All of these guys look the same and half of them are completely out of control just hanging on after the second air. They've really managed to take one of the most fun parts of the sport and made it boring.

I leave the analysis and perspective offered by HS and Joe GM to those with little experience, no real knowledge of the history of the sport, no discernible eye and who think that Kmart and Outer limits is the "da Bomb' .
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post #94 of 97
3/26/07 at 2:38pm
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Originally Posted by volklskier1 View Post
I'm not sure what the difference is between riding in a gondola and lsitening to nonsense and reading what you and HS write is?

World cup mogul skiing is going the way of aerials. It is becoming more and more disconnected from it's origins and from skiing. These are the only guys left skiing on straight skis. Squeezing your knees together as tight as you can while running the ruts certainly takes a lot of athleticism but as skiing it's rather ho hum.

When guys like Brooksbank, Clendenin, Wong etc started 'freestyle" including bump skiing they did it with style and flair. All of these guys look the same and half of them are completely out of control just hanging on after the second air. They've really managed to take one of the most fun parts of the sport and made it boring.

I leave the analysis and perspective offered by HS and Joe GM to those with little experience, no real knowledge of the history of the sport, no discernible eye and who think that Kmart and Outer limits is the "da Bomb' .
You're a complete joke, and won't answer the PMTS callout......
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post #95 of 97
3/27/07 at 4:36am
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Originally Posted by volklskier1 View Post
World cup mogul skiing is going the way of aerials. It is becoming more and more disconnected from it's origins and from skiing. These are the only guys left skiing on straight skis. Squeezing your knees together as tight as you can while running the ruts certainly takes a lot of athleticism but as skiing it's rather ho hum.

When guys like Brooksbank, Clendenin, Wong etc started 'freestyle" including bump skiing they did it with style and flair. All of these guys look the same and half of them are completely out of control just hanging on after the second air. They've really managed to take one of the most fun parts of the sport and made it boring.
Part of the reason it can be boring to some are that skiers and coaches has broken the down the fact and fiction in bump skiing and applied it successfully to the competition. I can understand that when casually watching, they start looking the same. And yes, the turns are judged but the main goal is still to go down the straightest path on the fall line with consecutive turns. To me, I find it very interesting that majority of the turning techniques these guys use have been touch upon by racing and instructional/recreational skiing, they just put them to its maximum usage or alter them for their needs.

I would also disagree about styles, there are differences; the Finland skiers; Sami, Miko and Janne have a real distinct style to their A&E, they make contact on the bumps a lot higher than most and their pole planting is so dynamic. You have a guy like Dale Begg Smith who skies lower in the troughs, has great touch and rolls his knees so well it’s just incredible to watch. Then you see guys who can get by with OK turns (and understand why) and just have really sick aerials.
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post #96 of 97
3/27/07 at 4:51am
WC SL can look pretty much all the same and be pretty boring to the casual observer, too. Not going to make too many Fox Sports highlights, but ho hum?
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post #97 of 97
3/27/07 at 6:48am
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.... To me, I find it very interesting that majority of the turning techniques these guys use have been touch upon by racing and instructional/recreational skiing, they just put them to its maximum usage or alter them for their needs.

BTW.....Joegm, Dipiro and others have touch upon this, WC bumpers do rely on group of fundamental techniques to ski efficiently down the fall line (using the shortest path) when the terrain gets bumpy. Given the terrain we have in the North East, I have found it extremely safe and in control when using short radius/rotary turns in the glades and the natural, narrow and twisty trails.

Given the recent death at Cannon, this hits home in two fronts, Cannon was my favorite spot, although it has been tamed, it still has some narrow sections. In addition, I have had some close calls in glades and twisty/narrow stuff at MRG and Ragged. This just reminds me to focus more on these types of short radius turns even if I'm not bumping.
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