Originally Posted by moguljunkie
Maybe you can tell me why it is that I like the way Bruno is skiing in the mogul videos posted the other day but am not as big a fan of some of the skiing in that Momentum Ski Camp video. I'm trying to see the differences but am too lazy to really study it closely. I think maybe it's that Bruno's skiing the line a little rounder, slower and in control. Or perhaps the bumps are natural, requiring a different type of line. Any thoughts?
IMO, Bruno is skiing like a top notch mere mortal but there are limitations that come with being a mere mortal (believe me, I know). The bumps we were skiing in Bruno's video were deep, and yes, skier made. However, that doesn't really matter, because the quality of the bumps at MJ are similar to manmade bumps, but they are really deep and tight most of the time... most of the lines at that place are perfect. If you were to see Bobby Aldigheri or Chuck Martin ski those same lines (those were our 2 coaches that weekend), you would see a more direct line and A LOT more speed... much more typical of the WC caliber (and downright hair raising
Why the difference? Proficiency. Chuck and Bobby are ex-olympians and you cannot compare their skiing level to any of the campers that they coach. Same for the guys in the Momentum video... most are current or former WC skiers.
My guess is the reason you like Bruno's skiing more is because it seems more attainable. The same way that a lot of folks like HHs "mogul" skiing... it seems attainable. Unfortunately, I think this leads to a lot of mystery behind mogul skiing in the eyes of the skiing public, as is proven by the endless myths and excuses of why "I" can't do it that way. I just love the way people bash something they know very little about (btw, this is not directed at anyone in particular)..
Skiing like a WC skier on a course or even freeskiing is not attainable unless you are very young and willing to devote the first half of your life to mogul skiing (which also means A LOT of coaching). Most decent to good mere mortal bump skiers have had coaching from competent coaches that apply the same techniques used on the WC. That said, Bruno is utilizing the techniques tought to him by ML to the best of his current ability (and pretty damn well I might add). He is not really doing something different or skiing a rounder line... he is skiing the same line, just not as direct as the pros or top level amateur competitors.
Furthermore, for the purposes of coaching, ML uses a computer program that compares the camper to a WC skiers. This enables the mere mortal to see what he/she is doing (somewhat) right and what they are doing wrong, when compared to a guy line DBS or Janne. The real purpose of this tool is to lead the skier toward better improving their weaknesses by seeing how "we" do it and how the pros do it. When you see this in person, you really realize how technically superior the pros are, and why they ski the way they do. Everything we do at the camps is modeled after WC level coaching, no matter what level you are, period. Some of the newer skiers have to work on their basics on the flats, but we all do the same drills that the WC guys do and work on the same concepts.
And believe me, the guys in those videos are in total control... just don't cut them off when they are skiing 30-35 mph. The reason that they rip like that is not because they are daredevils, but because they are technically so good that they can ski that fast on terrain that 90% of the skiers out there would completely flail on. There is so much going on technically in there skiing that it sometimes makes my head spin.
Now, maybe if there is enough interest, we can have a technical discussion amongst the forum members (from an amateur perspective of course) on what makes the WCers so good.
Hope that answers your question.