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Skis for Australia

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Hi peoples!
Just wanting some opinions on getting a new pair of skis, mainly to be used in Australia but also with a bit of all round ability on powder as well, which we don't get heaps of.
I'm 25, 183cm tall, and weigh 85 kilos. (Not sure what that is in pounds!) I've been skiing for about 8 years, and would say i'm a pretty aggressive skier and about a 7 or 8 level.
I have a pair of old Head MX4's in a 178cm length and am looking at upgrading to something that can handle going more backcountry terrain and powder. I was definitely looking at something in a twin tip as well. The snow we get over here isn't normally a heap of deep powder, more like a couple of inches when we get fresh stuff. So i'm after something that can handle probably 60-70% groomers but still be capable of some powder when i do head overseas to places like Whistler every couple of years.
Do people have any suggestions? I have been looking at the usual suspects of Public Enemies, Volkl Karma, Line Prophet 90, Armada AR6. Something with about a 85-90mm waist I was guessing should be ok?
However I recently came across some Scott P3's in a 184cm length and Salomon S810 Ti Bindings for $408 and thought that seemed to be a really good deal! Does that seem to be a suitable combination? Is a DIN level of 10 enough though?
Thanks heaps for any suggestions!
post #2 of 13
Buy skis for Oz and rent when OS. If we get snow again you won't really need much over 80mm waist. Something like the K2 Apache Recon at around 170cm would suit. Do you need a twin tip? Do you spend much time going backwards or landing switch?
post #3 of 13
Hi Major, welcome to EpicSki!
For the US contingent... 183cm = 6ft 1"
85kg = 187lb

DIN of 10 should be more than enough, but I would think that a 184 P3 might be a bit too much of a ski to be fun for you.

Apache Recon, Nordica Hot Rod Nitrous, Dynastar Contact 10, Rossignol B3...
post #4 of 13
Based on your descriptions of the snow you get, sounds a bit like the east coast.... For any powder we get over here, you don't really need anything more than 80-85mm waist... If your 'powder' is a couple of inches, I'd stick with a narrower waist, especially if you want to ride on groomers.

When you go overseas to ski, rent some skis that match the conditions of the day. No use in buying a wide-waisted ski that you really only NEED once every couple of years...

Ditto on the twin tip also... If you don't ski backwards or land switch, you don't really need it...
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the welcome!
Yeah, i am looking for somethign in a twin tip. I wan to learn riding switch and landing switch from jumps, just to do something different now that i'm pretty confident with the rest of my technique.
So would something like public enemies be more what i'm after? Kind of an all mountain twin tip but without the really wide waist? I just felt that they were a bit heavy on my foot when i tried them.
Are there other skis i should be looking at? I'm not really going to be grinding rails and things but will be looking at hitting jumps in the park.
But if that would compromise the all mountain aspect of the ski then i would rather have recommendations for something that focuses on outside the park, but could do a little of that if i wanted. Any ideas?
Thanks for the suggestions for skis, Wear The Fox Hat. I'll have a look at them as well....
post #6 of 13
I'm eyeing the upcoming Stockli XXL as possibly "the" ski that will do for Oz and US powder.

I've been leaving my Phat Luvs in the US as I cannot imagine needing 90mm underfoot in Oz. The snow's too dense and wet. They've been great though, even on hard pack.

The Stockli XXLs are just a tad narrower, I think they're about 80mm (79?) in the waist, and apparently they have the race ski construction, which means they are floppy and easy at slow speeds and in soft snow, but with the great edges for ice.
The Stormriders suffered from being too stiff and needing high speeds to turn readily. The XXLs seem to have fixed that.

Fred (the Stockli bloke) should be able to give more detail and also availability in Australia, but I'm hoping, from what I read, that these could be a great sole ski.
You can reach Fred via this site:
http://www.snowbizz.com.au/
post #7 of 13
Elan MO2
K2 PE
Stockli Rotor

I'd steer clear of the Salomon & Rossignol foam core twins, 85 while not overly heavy, would be too much for those skis...

there are plenty of skis out there that would probably do the job...

will you have a chance to demo? or are you just buying on recommendation?
post #8 of 13
Damn you ant, now another pair of skis to consider for my AT setup. I love my Stockli Stormrider XL's and those Stockli Stormrider XXLs look really sweet.
post #9 of 13
get rossi scratch brigads
post #10 of 13
Thread Starter 
Well, i was looking at buying on recommendation as i don't really have a chance to demo much where i live- the snow is about 650 miles south. I had a look at the elan M02's, but they don't seem to be what i'm after. I have looked at PE's before but found them to be a bit heavy?
Just on the Scott P3's again, does anyone know how stiff they are? And if the 178 or 184 length would be better for me based on my info in the top posts? I really like them....
post #11 of 13
major05, try posting at ski.com.au, they are your audience. If you want a twin tip for park etc you are looking at newschool stuff which isn't really big on this board.

Of the skis that you are looking at I have skiied the Volkl Karma, but that was in Japow, and I would not recommend them for Oz conditions.

WTFH made a couple of good suggestions - Apache Recon, Nordica Hot Rod Nitrous, Dynastar Contact 10, Rossignol B3 - although IMO, the Rossi B3 is too wide for OZ and the B2 is too much of a noodle.

I've been skiing in Oz for close to 30 years and we don't get powder, at best we get dust on crust; and a typical run will vary from boiler plate ice to mush. If you want to get a twin tip for the park go ahead, if you want to get a ski that handles all of the mountain, the suggestions have been made.

Also, there are plenty of places where you can hire the latest and greatest demo skis, you don't have buy before you try and you don't have to hire in Brisabane. Thats about as sendible as a Florida resident hiring skis in Miami for a trip to Utah. If you are skiing Thredbo or Perisher, try Larry Adlers (and there are others) at Jindabyne, they have plenty of quality skis and if you don't like the ski you have hired go and change them, try a different length, try a different ski.
post #12 of 13
Twin tips always seem to be a compromise. Cos they are twins, they are expected to perform in the park, and the various other all-mountain characteristics can suffer because of this.
post #13 of 13
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Originally Posted by major05 View Post
Well, i was looking at buying on recommendation as i don't really have a chance to demo much where i live- the snow is about 650 miles south. I had a look at the elan M02's, but they don't seem to be what i'm after. I have looked at PE's before but found them to be a bit heavy?
Just on the Scott P3's again, does anyone know how stiff they are? And if the 178 or 184 length would be better for me based on my info in the top posts? I really like them....
Major, if i was 40 pounds lighter, the MO2 would be my ski of choice! they are a very similar ski to the Elan 666, the benefit is the twin tip...

They seem to me from what you describe exactly what you want... not too heavy, twin, all mountain, not too fat... If you are already sold on the P3's why are you asking the question?
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