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Skiing in China?

post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
I’ve heard of a big new ski resort being built in Xinjiang Province.
Has anyone ever skied in China? What’s it like?
post #2 of 16
Where in Xinjiang? On the NE face of K2?

I came from China, my first experience on skis was in China, but that's not on a mountain. I was in a big refrigerator in Shanghai, an indoor "ski resort". We hold the skis in hands and took a elevator up then slided down, no turn, just saw who falled less.

Skiing should have a long history in China. But mordern alpine skiing is less a popular recreational sports in most part of China, due to the nature conditions. There're some decent resorts in Heilongjiang and Xinjiang provinces with nice snow and slopes. but not convenient to tourists. Recent years, some new resorts were built up arround Beijing area to attract more skiers. I was never there, looked very small and almost all man-made snow.

http://<a href="http://news3.xinhuan...561046.htm</a>

post #3 of 16
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the feedback.
Learned from another board, the place is called Pingtian. www.pingtianresorts.com
I’ve skied what’s supposed to be China’s best (Yabuli) and wasn’t impressed. Maybe this will be better.
Thanks again.
post #4 of 16
Heading to China for work this week. Short trip but I do have one goal and that is to ride the Maglev Train. Goes something like 267 mph!
post #5 of 16
7 min for 31 km (20 mi) end to end , you'll get 267 mph not more than 5 sec.
post #6 of 16
being Chinese, knowing the language and on the China ski web as often as being here. I can't imagine any good ski resorts in China would rival any of the Japanese resorts, let alone the Western resorts. The largest resorts in China today has about 7 lifts and 20 or so trails, not even equate to a small resorts in Tahoe, such as Diamond Peaks. And I know Homewood is larger than the largest resorts in Japan, never mind China.
post #7 of 16
btw, the pingtain resort is in construction, its not operating. In China, you have be believe it when you see it. Its a lawless society.
post #8 of 16
Thread Starter 
Hey Jack, I have a place in Incline Village and know Diamond Peak well.
You may be right on the China situation. Guess we'll just have to see.
post #9 of 16
Originally Posted by jackwan1 View Post
The largest resorts in China today has about 7 lifts and 20 or so trails, not even equate to a small resorts in Tahoe, such as Diamond Peaks. And I know Homewood is larger than the largest resorts in Japan, never mind China.
I disagree. Japan is mainly an on-piste arena, but even not poaching trees still leaves 3-4000 vert peaks to contend with. Heck, my middle-sized japanese resort here has four trams. Not big by japan standards, but heeps larger than homewood; http://www.jm-support.com/zao2/

Japan is not (yet) famous for it's big mountains, but here is a favorite shot I like to show this forum in hopes of boosting a bit of interest.

post #10 of 16

You cannot read this as it is in Chinese but it says Zao is only 182ha where as Homewood is 1260ac. 1 hectare = 2.471 053 815 acre. Go figure.

I ski with a lot of people from Taiwan and Hong Kong, they all went to Zao before and after they skied the ski areas in Tahoe they all told me its no comparison in terrain and size. Actually Zao is one of the most popular desitations in Japan for Taiwan and Hong Kong skiers. No stone is not turned over in Zao by those skiers.
post #11 of 16
well... Homewood is measuring it's IB terrain. Zao is measuring it's IB terrain. Both IB ideals are completely different. Trees are OB in japan. anything off piste is OB and not measured as skiable acreage. Zao is about 3000 vert, and more comparable to Heavenly than Homewood.

I too have skied tahoe, I lived there for five years. I would highly prefer the terrain it offers. But in defense of mountain size vs. mountain size, Zao is bigger than homewood.

Again, I would prefer tahoe resorts not for the size of the mountains, but for what is offered as IB. Here, there are fences all over the place. Look at that trail map, the OB trees that are actually within the resort boundaries is nearly 3000 vert. right down the gut of the mountain. But it won't be measured as skiable acreage. It's too bad too, because that's all I ski.

I would love to meet your friends from Taiwan and Hong Kong who claim no stone is not turned over. I honestly feel as if I had to pioneer that place and would honestly love more partners. Please PM me when your friends come through next, I'll show some goodies that have not been skied by any other than myself and my one partner in the last 3 years... honestly.

I don't want to get into a semantical debate about which offers bigger BC, but just wanted to clarify that there are probably 10X the miles of terrain boundary here at Zao compared to Homewood because Zao marks the edge of every piste as boundary. (Welcome to my stealth ways... nor do I condone poaching. But if you are avy-savvy and ski the BC and are prepared to ski terrain that is not managed, then poach away, just stay in the "safer" trees.)

Now back to our original program... skiing in China.
post #12 of 16
I will let them know about your secret stash and look up for you next year. The season is over for them and they were stationed in Zao for 45 days to handle skiers from the Taiwan tours. Eric is a racing coach in Whistler, will see him early April.
post #13 of 16
There are some articles out there, some I think on websites, by Westerners about skiing in China. So far as I can remember, it sounds like it's an industry that's still "in development" there.

Given the demonstrated capability of China to move around capital sufficient to build, almost suddenly, huge highways, factories and rows of 60-story apartment buildings, I wouldn't be surprised if a Chinese ski resort that rivals anything in the world were suddenly to appear out of nowhere (or out in the middle of nowhere, as the case may be).
post #14 of 16
no doubt the chinese will build it.

the issue is whether the resort that gets built ultimately geographically or meteorologically challenged.

I mean the logical conclusion is to build close to the population centers. however, those resorts are bound to be lower in elevation and rely on snow making. China doesn;t have a great nordic tradition for a reason.
post #15 of 16
I think china has a long way to go before they can build a super ski resort like Whistler, Vail, Aspen...etc. Even though they already has 100's small ski slopes operating. The per capita income has not reach such level that can support such an expensive sport. The infrastucture they have developed basically only support major cities and their commerce. Mainly, the labor intensive manufacturing process. The mountains that can build major ski resorts are mostly in remote areas where no infrastructure is being planned for. The main income to the ski area developers is the real estate and for chinese to have a second home for recreational purpose is not practical in the near future, perhaps 20 to 30 years.
post #16 of 16
Hi Jack,

Nice to hear from you, another chinese skier. I agree with your commnets about chinese ski industry. Well, to be a new immigrant I still have so many sweet memories of my old home. So please give them some credits that they might make some miracles happen.
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