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# What makes you a local? - Page 4

IMO being a local means that you go to the local hill by yourself and end up running into people that you know--having it happen on a regular basis.

I love small town life.

SNPete, that happens in the Megalopolis too. :) I see people I know by name every time I go to either of the two closest ski hills, old friends and acquaintances. I see friends on the streets every day I go into the city, too.

For me, being a local is going to the nearest ski hill to where you live. Most skiers in DC just fly out to the Rockies for their one or two weeks of being a skier. I  think many would benefit from regular practice at the local hills to develop skills and strength. Be a local, get out and ski your local hill. You'll ski a lot better when you go on vacation. :)
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Originally Posted by telerod15

For me, being a local is going to the nearest ski hill to where you live. Most skiers in DC just fly out to the Rockies for their one or two weeks of being a skier. I  think many would benefit from regular practice at the local hills to develop skills and strength. Be a local, get out and ski your local hill

I agree. I live 40 minutes from my local hill and that's where I ski 80% of the time. I plan my midweek ski days based on the weather. (hey boss! they got a foot of snow last night, would it be OK if......  )

This year I am learning to ski powder. Eight days out of 25 so far.
Live 5 minutes away and 10 or 12 seasons passes..Moving in the next 5 years..probably MT
Measuring distances in units of time always seems odd to me.
Its a more accurate measure unless you supply data containing average speed etc..

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Originally Posted by telerod15

Measuring distances in units of time always seems odd to me.
Distance is most accurately measured in units of length.
So would you use an odometer reading or as the crow flies ?

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Originally Posted by telerod15

Distance is most accurately measured in units of length.
I would measure it by how many people at Gunstock know you by name.
Measuring distances in units of acquaintances always seems odd to me.

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I would measure it by how many people at Gunstock know you by name.
Always?
This is an easy one. Beside having a house in within 15 mins of the mountain.

If you walk into the Post Office and know 3 or more people. Local.
If you can stand off to the side of the lift line and find a ski buddy for the day in 10 mins. Local
The most important part, if you can walk into a bar and the owner/bartender knows you and your family. Local.

Second home owners don't count as locals and never will.
I dont think being a local has anything to do with how much you ski at the resort and how many people who live there know you, that is ridiculous... that would make most of my out-of-towner friends locals.  In my opinion being a local has nothing to do with the ski area and everything to do with how much you are actually involved with the community (ski towns and non-ski towns alike).  In my opinion, you might be a local if... You regularly vote in town elections (and I'm not talking voting at your annual HOA meeting).  You work in town year round (bonus points for every additional job you have).  You live in town year-round (with the exception of the 2 weeks after the ski area closes when you bail to Mexico with the rest of the town).  You volunteer for local organizations/charities/etc (and bonus points if you also receive assistance from those same local charities).  You actually act kindly to visitors and tourists and appreciate their business.  You politely pay full price while the guy next to you in line haggles for a lower price because he/she has 10 days on their ski pass and a 2nd home in town.
I don't think anyone who lives in Fairfield skis.
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Originally Posted by tam

I dont think being a local has anything to do with how much you ski at the resort and how many people who live there know you, that is ridiculous... that would make most of my out-of-towner friends locals.  In my opinion being a local has nothing to do with the ski area and everything to do with how much you are actually involved with the community (ski towns and non-ski towns alike).  In my opinion, you might be a local if... You regularly vote in town elections (and I'm not talking voting at your annual HOA meeting).  You work in town year round (bonus points for every additional job you have).  You live in town year-round (with the exception of the 2 weeks after the ski area closes when you bail to Mexico with the rest of the town).  You volunteer for local organizations/charities/etc (and bonus points if you also receive assistance from those same local charities).  You actually act kindly to visitors and tourists and appreciate their business.  You politely pay full price while the guy next to you in line haggles for a lower price because he/she has 10 days on their ski pass and a 2nd home in town.

you imply that a ski community is a homogenious, cohesive, like minded group of individuals, with whom a person could tolerate 2 minutes of conversation or 30 seconds of shared space.  NOT!

a major portion of our community is so ignorant, bigoted, narrow minded, petty, anti-ecological, and miserable and bitter that being involved with them on any level would be the worst possbile way to (ski) be a local. Resort societies are extremely fragmented, conceptually, financially, socially, politically, etc. even given that many of those groups of people have skiing in common.
"a major portion of our community is so ignorant, bigoted, narrow minded, petty, anti-ecological, and miserable and bitter"
You left out cynical
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you imply that a ski community is a homogenious, cohesive, like minded group of individuals, with whom a person could tolerate 2 minutes of conversation or 30 seconds of shared space.  NOT!

a major portion of our community is so ignorant, bigoted, narrow minded, petty, anti-ecological, and miserable and bitter that being involved with them on any level would be the worst possbile way to (ski) be a local. Resort societies are extremely fragmented, conceptually, financially, socially, politically, etc. even given that many of those groups of people have skiing in common.
Precisely

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Originally Posted by tam

I dont think being a local has anything to do with how much you ski at the resort and how many people who live there know you, that is ridiculous... that would make most of my out-of-towner friends locals.  In my opinion being a local has nothing to do with the ski area and everything to do with how much you are actually involved with the community (ski towns and non-ski towns alike).  In my opinion, you might be a local if... You regularly vote in town elections (and I'm not talking voting at your annual HOA meeting).  You work in town year round (bonus points for every additional job you have).  You live in town year-round (with the exception of the 2 weeks after the ski area closes when you bail to Mexico with the rest of the town).  You volunteer for local organizations/charities/etc (and bonus points if you also receive assistance from those same local charities).  You actually act kindly to visitors and tourists and appreciate their business.  You politely pay full price while the guy next to you in line haggles for a lower price because he/she has 10 days on their ski pass and a 2nd home in town.
1.  Not sure how I implied that everyone was a happy-go-lucky, holding hands, cohesive unit in ski towns... I was just implying that it takes more to be a local than knowing a few lifties and skiing more than 20 days a year, it takes contributing to the community.
2.  So non-resort communities don't have people that are ignorant, bigoted, narrow-minded, petty, etc.??  Sweet!  I'm outta here!

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Originally Posted by davluri

you imply that a ski community is a homogenious, cohesive, like minded group of individuals, with whom a person could tolerate 2 minutes of conversation or 30 seconds of shared space.  NOT!

a major portion of our community is so ignorant, bigoted, narrow minded, petty, anti-ecological, and miserable and bitter that being involved with them on any level would be the worst possbile way to (ski) be a local. Resort societies are extremely fragmented, conceptually, financially, socially, politically, etc. even given that many of those groups of people have skiing in common.
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Originally Posted by tam

In my opinion being a local has nothing to do with the ski area and everything to do with how much you are actually involved with the community (ski towns and non-ski towns alike).  In my opinion, you might be a local if... You regularly vote in town elections   You work in town year round (bonus points for every additional job you have).  You live in town year-round You volunteer for local organizations/charities/etc (and bonus points if you also receive assistance from those same local charities).  You actually act kindly to visitors and tourists and appreciate their business.

But what about a resort like Kirkwood where the nearest real town is an hour (on average) away? Pick either Jackson or South Lake/Meyers.

By your def, no one could be a Kirkwood Local.
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But I do understand the concept of being a Local in the Tahoe region.
Informal. A person from a particular locality.

formal. Killing it at your local hill. Representing. Owning it. Defending turf.
Your still a blow in to the locals. And a legend in your own mind..

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formal. Killing it at your local hill. Representing. Owning it. Defending turf.
Nobody lives near Whitetail. Ski Liberty is located in a small town but nobody who lives there skis. You live close to your hill but you don't ski well enough to be part of the scene. Oh well...
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Your still a blow in to the locals. And a legend in your own mind..

Funny, that sounds more like me
I didnt know we were into the personal attacks already ace...wow

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Originally Posted by telerod15

Nobody lives near Whitetail. Ski Liberty is located in a small town but nobody who lives there skis. You live close to your hill but you don't ski well enough to be part of the scene. Oh well...
Local is where YOU feel like you belong
if your a seasonaire, generally you're considered a local provided you speak the local language and can pull off the accent. you have a season lift pass, and are staying in town, and will be there until the lifts close at the very least, if not over the summer as well. and most seasonaires live in the resort/town, they all know each other from the same supermarkets, pubs, and being on the slopes. there are only a handful of seasonaires at any place compared to the amount of vacationers/gapers that come through
Edited by juhocha - 2/27/10 at 4:57pm
At least where I am, there's a difference between being a "local" as far as the ski resort and being a "native" as far as the town.  The ski area is NOT the town.  For part of the year maybe that is where a significant part of the "action" is, but it's less than half the year.  As far as the ski area is concerned, I'd be considered a local.  Most of the lifties, even the imports, know my name.  Many of the mountain ambassadors know my name or if you gave a quick description would know who you were talking about.  Most of the midweek regulars know my name.  I rarely go a day without running into someone I know and skiing a run or two with them.  I know the cashiers at the spot I eat and the guys know what I want for lunch.  People looking for me know approximately the time I eat and where I sit.

As far as the town goes, it's another story.  If you aren't a skier and never shopped where I worked, or aren't in the health professions, more than likely you don't know me.  I wasn't born here.  My daughter went to school here, but that's it.  I don't attend church and most of the stuff I've been involved with has been skiing related, so it's mostly skiers I know.  So, there's a huge segment of the population that I just never encounter, even though there's just maybe 10,000 people or so in the area.  And a bunch of those people think it's important that I wasn't born here.
you're probably lucky you were n't born there. living somewhere to ski after living elsewhere to grow is different than being born and raised in a remote community.

I have great ski friends here, but to have grown up here would be a disaster. even my son, who loves skiing, has shunned the community in favor of the bay area. a no-brainer for him.
Im not sure that would apply everywhere.. Id rather have my kids grow up in the country then in the city any day. Although Tahoe is an odd place.. not really a country town.

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Originally Posted by davluri

you're probably lucky you were n't born there. living somewhere to ski after living elsewhere to grow is different than being born and raised in a remote community.

I have great ski friends here, but to have grown up here would be a disaster. even my son, who loves skiing, has shunned the community in favor of the bay area. a no-brainer for him.
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