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post #31 of 55
I'm a pretty good shot, not competitive, but good enough to score expert a couple of times. I never hunted because I had never learned the ropes with someone experienced. It strikes me that the tool which exeutes the final shot is much less important than your skill, knowledge and sportsmanship. Almost any centerfire rifle will deliver enough accuracy to hit a deer at 150 yards, and almost anyone can be trained in a couple of hours to be accurate enough to hit a deer at that range. More than that and you need to be a very confident marksman, with a lot of practice.

I would urge you to find a hunting club or a friend who is an experienced hunter, and to help keep the good name of sporting hunters. I know that will be my approach if and when I hunt. FWIW, you might also consider starting with varmint hunting. It takes better marksmanship, and it is a lot easier to dress and carry home your harvest.
post #32 of 55
Discharging a large bore rifle can be quite unnerving at first because of recoil and noise not to mention the cost of each round and your shoulder. IMO start with a 22 rifle for target practice. 243 is a good deer rifle. 30-06 good all around rifle. I like a 7mm w/ a 3x9. Please take a Hunters Saftey Course. Keep your Ammo and weapon in seperate areas and locked.
post #33 of 55

Deer Rifle

Don't use a 243 on deer unless you live over by Mt. bachelor and the deer are really small.
post #34 of 55

know what the game is.......

ryan:

There are different rifles for different applications. Most hunters use bolt actions based on the battle proven 1898 Mauser or variations of it. As a general rule use a larger caliber/bore as the game increases in size and dangerousness.

Going to Alaska or the Rockies for a mixed bag, including dangerous game? Get a .338 Winny with a 3x9 variable scope. (4K foot pounds min.)

Headed to the plains of Wyoming where the antelope roam? Get a 6X24 variable scoped .25-06 or some similar caliber which pushes 100 grain bullets with an MV of 3300 fps+. (2K foot pounds min)

Wanna visit yer inbred uncle and cute horny cuzin (she's hot) here in redneckland SC and hunt deer like me what keyuls teyun deers a yar? Any .30-06 bolt will do, or you can even use yer pickup to take one out. (2.5k foot pounds min)

Got the itch for plains game like Bongo or Lord Derby Eland in Africa? You need to move to a .358 Norma, a 9.3x62 Mauser, 9.3x64 Brenneke, or a .375 H&H (4K foot pounds min). Remember, on the Veldt you are in the food chain.

Want to brain an Elephant or Cape Buffalo? You need a stopping rifle...a real brute ....use either a double rifle or Magnum Mauser actioned big bore...in .416 Rigby, .505 Gibbs or .470 Nitro Express, or the poor man's caliber, .458 Lott. (6k foot pounds min) Remember, on the Veldt you are in the food chain.

There are minimum caliber requirements for dangerous game in some countries...check before you travel.

Many fine books on the topic; pm me if you want references.

Personally I like CZ 550's http://www.cz-usa.com/ and M98's; they do not screw up in the field.

Here's an appetizer: http://www.mauserwaffen.de/

And the safety switch is between your ears.
post #35 of 55
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Originally Posted by Pete No. Idaho View Post
Don't use a 243 on deer unless you live over by Mt. bachelor and the deer are really small.
Yeah nothing much around these parts.



post #36 of 55
Nice critters!
post #37 of 55
Thread Starter 
mainiac, deer in nevada, and for sustenance rather than sport.

thanks for all the very informative feedback.
post #38 of 55

Chateaubriand of Venison...

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mainiac, deer in nevada, and for sustenance rather than sport.

thanks for all the very informative feedback.
...is this what you are looking for?
post #39 of 55
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...is this what you are looking for?
Had to take a napkin to my drooling mouth!!!!!!!!!Ca c'est TRES jolie, Mainiac!

How about that recipe for that back strap Mr. Mainiac....please! And you did real good in not OVER-COOKING that venison...just the way it should be, nice and a little rare in the center, perfect! Ah some baked sweet potatoes with pecans and cane syrup casserole!
post #40 of 55
TAKE THE BAR! Nice rifle. I love autos.

Not a "machine gun." Lovely old school hunting tool.

Remember - style points count more and more as you get older.
post #41 of 55
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Had to take a napkin to my drooling mouth!!!!!!!!!Ca c'est TRES jolie, Mainiac!

How about that recipe for that back strap Mr. Mainiac....please! And you did real good in not OVER-COOKING that venison...just the way it should be, nice and a little rare in the center, perfect! Ah some baked sweet potatoes with pecans and cane syrup casserole!
Merci mon ami! Did you get the pm?
post #42 of 55
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Merci mon ami! Did you get the pm?
Not only did I receive it, I copied to desk top!!!!! Can't loose it that way! It just so happens I have a coupla back straps hanging around...this will be the method of preparation!!!!!!

BTW...Ya need to give Trekchick a heads up on this recipe....
post #43 of 55
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Not only did I receive it, I copied to desk top!!!!! Can't loose it that way! It just so happens I have a coupla back straps hanging around...this will be the method of preparation!!!!!!

BTW...Ya need to give Trekchick a heads up on this recipe....
You have the only copy, mon ami! Cest toujours en le tete moi!
post #44 of 55
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Cest toujours en le tete moi!
Dans Tete!!!!!! Pas Moi!!!!!

Quand vous etes VIEUX, vous l'ecrivez avalez!!!!!!
post #45 of 55
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Dans Tete!!!!!! Pas Moi!!!!!

Quand vous etes VIEUX, vous l'ecrivez avalez!!!!!!
Qui! Passez vous du vin! Il facilite l'ecrivez!
post #46 of 55
Ah, le vin......c'est le problem avec mon tete!!!!!
post #47 of 55
HEY! some of us hillbillys cain't read no france-wa!

ott-six
post #48 of 55
The Browning BAR 30-06 is now a strong population of 3 rifles in my hunting family. My dad, his twin, and now me.

Take it!! and go drop coins at 100 yards. Later, with gained experience, you can expand your quiver of exploding barrels.

Mine; BAR 30-06, BPS 12 guage, Merlin 30-30 Lever C, Smith & Wesson 22 Security Revolver as well as a 16 guage side-by-side whose maker is slipping from my memory. (don't tell my dad I forgot, he'll take the other 15 guns I'm supposed to inherit and sell them!)

and slider; those pics you posted were much appreciated. You quoted pete talking about small deer around Bachelor being able to be taken with a small 243. You cheated. That third shot, the bull, was taken with a tiny little ol' Bow. You Wimp!
post #49 of 55
This is Jer speaking rather interesting post. I prefer to kill at close range so that my prey can see me. I have found that a samll pencel flashlight taped to the barrel greatly improves accuracy.
post #50 of 55
Jer, if you need a flashlight taped for close in work, it's time to ask for a refund on that book ...... "Extra Special Op's".

David Bowie and Elton John books may be ..... uh ..... entertaining .... but.


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post #51 of 55
This is Jer speaking I have no idea where you are going with the elton john and david bowie referenses although bowie's ziggy stardust image reminds me of my favoritte opera the mikado.

This is the third and final part of my cipher

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post #52 of 55
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Yeah nothing much around these parts.



Don't you mean not much left? You didn't get all the bass in the John Day too did you?
post #53 of 55
I don't hunt anymore and have very little time for fishing. But John Day River is on the schedule this year. Twickenham has a few private ponds that are really good trout fishing. Mattitude and I are already planning a ski trip for next winter in Idaho and your part of the woods.
post #54 of 55
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Originally Posted by Pete No. Idaho View Post
Don't use a 243 on deer unless you live over by Mt. bachelor and the deer are really small.
The deer are small and so are the cats.....



210lb. cat, Baker County, Oregon


No fish either...

post #55 of 55
Very good advice here.

Learn the laws in each state. In many states you lean a loaded gun against a motor vehicle its the same as being inside the car loaded. Hefty fines and you loose your gun.

Purchase a gun that is easy to load AFTER YOU GET INTO THE WOODS and more important easy to unload BEFORE YOU GET OUT OF THE WOODS.

If you have no experience walking around the woods with a gun, I would purchase a BB gun and practice walking through the woods. I hate fellow hunters that accidentally point a rifle at me even for an instance loaded or unloaded. You do that once and I will never hunt with you again. You get one chance. It takes a lot experience to handle a gun safely in the woods around other hunters.

I would recommend going to a Cabela's or other similar store that has 100s of guns on display that you can pick up and touch. Everyone has a different body shape and some brands fit your individual body better than others.

Safety switch sometimes will make a noise when you switch to fire. You can pick up 10 identical rifles and 9 out of 10 safety switch will click and 1 out of 10 will be quiet. You don't want to have the safety switch set to fire while walking through the woods because it makes too much noise.

Bolt actions come in right handed and left handed. Now you may be one of those folks that are right handed but left eye dominate that requires you to shoot left handed using a left handed bolt action.

You can buy rifles like the Ruger M77 (30-06 caliber) bolt action with a matching Ruger M77 (.22 caliber) for cheaper target practice and similar look and feel. The Ruger M77 also has an optional dove tail SCOPE mounts that make for a more secure SCOPE mount in case you bump the scope against a tree.
Check the Ruger M77 by clicking here.

Don't ever shoot at a running deer. If you are lucky enough to hit a running deer ( I mean lucky) you will probably hit it in the ASS where all the good meat is.

Oh yeah I am not a fan of see through scope mounts that allow you to use your open sights on the gun. These scope mounts raise the scope higher which means you must raise your head to an uncomfortable position to look through the scope.
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