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pectorals....

post #1 of 19
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I had my first really spectacular racing crash two weekends ago. the kind that causes mothers on the chair to cover their children's eyes, and perfect strangers to vault over the fence to view the carnage and see if I'd survived.

I got a fully loaded ski caught up in a rut, and I twisted to get it OUT of there, (bad move) and moments later I was airborne. I flew a good twenty five feet or so down the steep, backward, and then after landing on my back and my head, slid another fifty. Just as I was wondering dizzily if I should do something to self arrest, I stopped.

I had only enough sense left to know that I needed to get up right away to aleiviate worries, and did so. a little dazed, but I free skied the rest of the day, I just avoided the tall green and brown blurs, I figured those were trees.

The next day, however, I couldn't even TOUCH my kneck, and my chest hurt so much I couldn't breath. I had a CT scan, no concussion, no whiplash, But the doctor said that I pulled a pectoral muscle, the big one that runs right below the sholders and kneck. "OR" she said, I may have bruised of fractured a rib. buthere was nothing she could do. (really frikken helpful, isnt she?)

WEll, i its definitely a muscle. but it has been two weeks and it still hurts to reach, take a deep breath, and if I sneeze, I am out of commission for an hour. I just curl up in a ball on the floor and wait for the pain to subside. if I stand up too fast its like somone punched me in the chest, hard.

I took last weekend off, bu I am, however, skiing this weekend. any suggestions on making this feel better?

Ice helps a little. Icy Hot patches at least make it feel and smell like I am doing something but it doesn't help, not really. Heat doesn't help at all. Tylenol takes a little bit of the edge off, but then I deal with rebound headaches. Ibuprophin never works for me, although I tried it a couple times and it still doesn't help. I tried "gentle excercise" and it nearly killed me.

How long does these stupid things take to heal?
post #2 of 19
Really depends, keeping movement helps flush the muscle and increase oxygen rich blood to help healing. Drink lots and lots of water, take vitamin C (helps reduce soreness) and rest plenty.
post #3 of 19
well there is no magic cure, but lots and lots of high quality protein helps repair and rebuild muscle tissues faster than anything. (besides steroids of course) hit a health food or vitamin store and get some high quality protein shake mix, and have one between meals and before bed.
post #4 of 19

pectoral?

are you sure that you are naming the correct muscle? its not the"big one below the shoulders and neck"
post #5 of 19
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Originally Posted by crunchy View Post
well there is no magic cure, but lots and lots of high quality protein helps repair and rebuild muscle tissues faster than anything. (besides steroids of course) hit a health food or vitamin store and get some high quality protein shake mix, and have one between meals and before bed.
Good advice, any trauma whether self induced (weight training;the body sees it as injury) or due to an accident, requires repair and quality protein will help with that. Whey protein is the best.
post #6 of 19
I doubt that the healing time difference between 'high quality' and 'generic' whey protein will make a noticable difference.. go cheap.
post #7 of 19
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are you sure that you are naming the correct muscle? its not the"big one below the shoulders and neck"

Not sure, just quoting what the Dr. said.....it hurts on the right side, just below the sholder to around the center, and to the right under the arm pit. it heven hurts in the back.

i am still skiing this weekend though. I have some steroid for headaches, but it makes me depressed (big time....) so i will tyr the protiene
post #8 of 19
No advice, but I'm sorry to hear you're hurting.

Are you sleeping well at night? I take steroids for MS, and the side effects are just not worth it. I'd try something else. I'm a fan of Hydrocodone (or its lesser brother narcotic, Tramadol) to get some pain free rest.
post #9 of 19
FWIW, after my husband's back surgery which caused severe trauma to the large muscles that run along the spine, the doctor and the nurses all told him that to speed recovery, he should drink lots of water and make a point of every hour or so he was awake to do a couple of minutes of slow deep breathing. Given your injury that will hurt unless you do it carefully, but they said the oxygen to the tissues would help speed healing.
post #10 of 19
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"Are you sleeping well at night?"

Bonni, nope. well, I wasn't, every time I moved Id wake up and get up out of bed and walk around the house like Igor trying to get to an ice pack or something.

but heres what happend skiing this weekend, it hurt pretty badly, first couple of runs I acutally had tears wetting the foam of my goggles.

But then VK says "lets do Avenger" (we were at attitash) I am thinking that i really wasn't up for avenger in my condition, and sure enough, they had the NCAA championships running one trail over and avenger was pretty much skied off and bumped up and groomed funny and I was stiff and so I crashed.

I got up and felt GREAT. something gave way and there was still a little residual soreness but Its better. I was able to ski for the rest of the weekend and even though it still is killing me, at least Ibuprofin takes the edge off now. I dont know what happened, the crash was just a "hip check" gone bad, but something mustv gotten knocked back into place.

it still kills when I sneeze though...
post #11 of 19
First I'll say I hope you get to feeling better. You probably did pull a muscle but it also sounds like alot of the pain is from the rib injury. I've torn cartilage between my ribs several times. Its the only ski injury I've ever had. It's very painfull and can take a month or more to heal up. Dont push yourself to hard like going running because it will cause muscle spasms and that will make you miserable. Thats probably whats happening after you sneeze or exercise.

Take care and dont push it to hard.
post #12 of 19
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First I'll say I hope you get to feeling better. You probably did pull a muscle but it also sounds like alot of the pain is from the rib injury. I've torn cartilage between my ribs several times. Its the only ski injury I've ever had. It's very painfull and can take a month or more to heal up. Dont push yourself to hard like going running because it will cause muscle spasms and that will make you miserable. Thats probably whats happening after you sneeze or exercise.

Take care and dont push it to hard.
could very well be a bruised rib or from where your pain is your serratus anterior muscle. This link may help
http://www.triggerpointbook.com/sidestit.htm
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post #14 of 19
Protein, lots of water and gentle movement to keep the circulation high. Try going to a pool. Even if you can't swim the water movement will help.
post #15 of 19
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five weeks, still hurts

thanks for those trigger point links, I have recently purchased that book and am interested in learning that...

five weeks. I cant watch funny shows on tv because it hurts so much to laugh. (caugt this cat video on Funnies Home Videos and I went into hysterics, hurt myself so much I thought I was going to the hospital...) then I reached into the back seat of the car for something and almost passed out, I pulled something again...

that torn cartlage thing sounds kinda like what is going on. I am sure I am taking far too much Advil, and with this IcyHot stuff I smell like an old lady. I am no longer dragging myself around the house like Igor though, but I still cant fully pull my shoulders back for long periods of time.

skiing is ok though, as long as I keep a nice still upper body, and I dont pole too much on the way to the chair. (i can skate without poling though. thats ok.)

I just dont know. I skied three of four days at Sugarloaf in pretty crappy conditions and it didn't like it at all.

it might be time for drs. except for mine is useless.
post #16 of 19
Linda,

A severe muscle pull or tear can last 5 weeks, especially if you reinjure the tissue a few times within the 5 weeks. Did you have any bruising?

I partially tore a Pectoral muscle playing rugby in college. I knew I had hurt myself during the game but kept on playing figuring it was nothing. When I woke up the next day I had a bruise the size of a dinner plate over the entire right side of my chest. Not pretty to say the least. I was out of commission for the better part of a month with that inury.

It really does sound like a rib injury to me. A friend of mine suffered a "dislocated rib". I never before knew a rib could be dislocated. Apparently he tore rib cartlege (sp) and "displaced a rib. He suffered severe muscle spasms for 6 weeks before going to a Chiropractor. His symptoms sounded a lot like yours. Apparently the Chiro was able to help him almost immediately by adjusting him in a manner which relieved the muscle spasms and put his rib back in place (layman's interpretation)

Hit the Chiro, it might help.
post #17 of 19
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nope, no bruising, but I really do think its rib or something internal. I stopped taking ibuprophin for like, half a day and it hurt so much I decided that I picked the wrong time to stop taking it. ("looks like I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue...") (remember the guy in "Airplane!")

It will be fine, Ill be sitting at work and then I stand up to do something and it spasms really bad, almost feels like something is "dropping." then I clutch my chest and curl up in a ball under the desk till it passes.

Funny thing is, it feels best when I am skiing.

I think i will go to a chiro. I've been meaning to get to one anyway....thanks for the advice and the commiseration. this really sucks, to say the least.
post #18 of 19
I would recommend getting in to see an orthopedist, especially a shoulder specialist. (Even if it isn't the shoulder per se, it's the right region.) I'm not sure what kind of insurance you have so you might have to get your physician to refer you. I think a more detailed diagnosis would go a long way in helping you feel more certain about what's going on and have a good idea about prognosis. There may even be a splint or wrap that could help.
post #19 of 19
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hey, you guys were right, torn cartilage and inflammation. it got even worse, so I got a new Dr.

Steroids helped it heal. Muscle relaxants didn't do anything so it wasnt a muscle. Vicodin got me through the really bad times. its still tender but nothing like it was before, thanks for the help!
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