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post #1 of 16
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I'm looking at buying a pair of LINE skis - either the Prophet 130 or Prophet 90. Does anyone have any experience with these skis?

I'm a Cascade Skier from Seattle, Washington. I'm looking for an all mountain ski to handle our unique snow conditions (i.e. tons and tons of wet heavy snow). I already have a pair of LINE Motherships, which I've fitted with Daimar Randonee bindings for back-country skiing. They're wonderful skis for backcountry conditions, but they behave badly on hardback or icy runs inbounds. Also, I think the Randonee boots don't give you the control typical ski boots can provide!
post #2 of 16
I have ridden the Prophet 80 and found it nimble and quick.

FWIW, they are made in China now. Some folks have a problem with this, others do not, but just thought I'd throw it out there.

post #3 of 16
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Originally Posted by sdstarr View Post
I'm looking at buying a pair of LINE skis - either the Prophet 130 or Prophet 90. Does anyone have any experience with these skis?

I guessing you mean the 100 or 90 - because the 130 is huge. I haven't skied it, but it comes across like a true big mountain ride that isn't going to do much for you in bounds/on piste.

I have skied this years 100 and last years 80. Both are great skis and are very adaptable for front and back side skiing. 100 under foot here at epic is often times considered too much, but the 100 has under a 20m turn radius and is very quick under foot. I skied the 179 (too short for me) at Mt. Hood and really liked them for their quickness and ease of float in the mank and crud found typically in bounds at Hood. This is a ski that I will demo again next year in the 186 - the 179 felt a bit loose at speed for me.

I liked the 80 when I skied it in 05/06 - not a ton of float but held a good edge. Seemed like a good groomer/front side crud ski. My guess is it is pretty close to the K2 PE.

If you meant the 130 - this probably didn't help at all.
post #4 of 16
Line had terrible durability for a long time. The move to China actually seemed to be a good thing- starting with the Prophet series, their skis have at least been brought up to the "average" mark. We still seem to see an awful lot of thrashed Invaders and Chronics, though.
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FWIW, they are made in China now. Some folks have a problem with this, others do not, but just thought I'd throw it out there.

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Volkl Gotamas are made in China too, and there don't seem to be many on this board who find that a problem. I understand that Line & Volkl are under the same K2 umbrella - wouldn't be overly surprised to find that they're coming from the same factory.

I own the Prophet 100 in a 186 and find it to be remarkably adept on the groomers - quick? well, no , not compared to a carver, but what do you expect? Plenty quick enough for me though, light, easy,and very stable at speed. A good tool for Whistler fresh cement , and a dream on lighter powder, but I find I get tossed sround a bit in heavy crud. That probably has more to do with my lack of skill than the ski, but I wouldn't say that its anything close to the ride that you'd get from a Legend Pro, for example.

Well worth a look
post #6 of 16
I am a cascade skier too and I have seen several pairs of 130's out on the wet heavy days. As you must know keeping a tip up is a must do in super wet snow and while the rest of us are leaning back the guys on the 130 are charging down the hill. Kinda cool to see. the 130's also have quite a generous side cut which seemed to allow the few pairs ive seen to lay trenches down in groomed snow. Probably not a 1 ski quiver but in the infamous cascade concrete you need a big ski just to go.
post #7 of 16
I own and ski the Prophet 80 and have reviewed it here on Epic. I can't say enough about it and from talking to others feel that the 90 is probably an even better ski, especially for you, given where you live. I live and ski in the east and vascilated b/w the two, ultimately deciding on the 80. The other great thing about them is that they generally can be found for a pretty reasonable price if you keep an eye on various websites. I have had no durability issues and again really have nothing but good things to say about the 80.
post #8 of 16
Never owned any Lines, but have seen/heard of durability issues with them. However, I've heard of no such issues with early 90's vintage Volkl GS race skis.
post #9 of 16
The durability issues were NOT in the Prophet line of skis. I'm quite intrigued by Line skis as well...
post #10 of 16
I own 4 pairs of Line Skis currently:
Line Elizabeth
Line Prophet 90
Line Sir Francis Bacon
Line Mothership Flite 182cm

Guys in the shop own Chronic Blends and Prophet 100's. I have owned Prophet 80's in the past and loved them. The only ski that had real durability issues was the '06 Invader and the issue was not a construction problem but more of a problem with the top skin on the ski only adhering to that of the black ink and not the white.

As for skiing I would say these are not average skis in the Prophet series. I would put the Prophet 90 up against the Mantra any day on the frontside. The place I like my Mantra's more is when I am using my Freeride's and want something with less sidecut. The Prophet 90 plows through snow with ease and is a very quick turning ski. It is actually the narrowest ski that I own and one of the most versatile. I love my Elizabeth's as well with a 16m turn radius and 110mm underfoot.

Line Prophet 90
http://www.untracked.com/p1049-07_li...tain_skis.html
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I'm currently looking into getting a pair of Sir Francis Bacons, what's your opinion of them as an out-West powder/resort ski? I currently ski Dynastar Legend 8000s, but they are much too narrow for pow days.

post #12 of 16

Just finished my second year on Prophet 100s. Very tough, well made skis. I ski Castle a lot and the upper slopes are above tree line with rocks blowing around (seriously). Big hits - no problem. I skied Baker for 20+ years and IMHO 100s would be the perfect one ski quiver for Cascades inbounds just don't get them too short. Remember they are twins.

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I considered the 100s but decided early on that they weren't wide enough for what I'm looking for. My 8000s can be used in anything except +12" powder, so I'm really looking for something bigger, hence the bacons. On a side note, do you know any good shops(online or otherwise) that carry line? Everywhere I check, bacons seem to be sold out, and Mt. Pilchuck Ski and Sport is in the process of closing its doors, so I'm quite desperate.

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Have you demoed the Bacons?  If not, you should, unless you can get them super cheap.  I have the women's version of the Bacons (Pandora 162) and love them.  But friends of mine who've demoed them didn't feel the love.  They're an odd ski because of the forward mounting point, light weight, and soft flex.  

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Originally Posted by Blackgriffen View Post

I considered the 100s but decided early on that they weren't wide enough for what I'm looking for. My 8000s can be used in anything except +12" powder, so I'm really looking for something bigger, hence the bacons. On a side note, do you know any good shops(online or otherwise) that carry line? Everywhere I check, bacons seem to be sold out, and Mt. Pilchuck Ski and Sport is in the process of closing its doors, so I'm quite desperate.


Did you not consider the Motherships for some reason?  That would be my pick in the "wider than P100, narrower than P130 range".  They can be found online in the $300-400 range.

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 I have, but they seem too stiff for what I desire. I'm aiming for a softer flex that can explore jibbing, excel in powder, but still be maneuverable in tight spots.

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Did you not consider the Motherships for some reason?  That would be my pick in the "wider than P100, narrower than P130 range".  They can be found online in the $300-400 range.

 

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