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post #1 of 18
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OK...before I ask this question I realize there are dozens of variables that will influence the answer...like snow conditions, expected performance, how many beer cans are skied over, etc. BUT, I am interested how often the AVERAGE skier has their skis tuned. For example, every ten ski days, twice a season, once a season, etc? Obviously every skier's season is relatively longer or shorter than anothers so it would seem the answer in days would be most interesting. Again, (obviously) ten days on ice is not the same as ten days on powder. On the expected performance criterion some skier's can't stand even the most slightly diminished performance while others are little more tolerant. I'm just trying to get a feeling for how folks look at tuning. So, what is your answer?
post #2 of 18
Full tune every 20-25 days (roughly twice this year).

Sharpen/polish with a diamond stone every day or maybe every other day.

Wax and file the side edges every 5 days roughly.

Part of the schedule would depend on what I'll be skiing. I like nice sharp edges if I'm going to be on groomers all day. For pow days, I might try to keep my edges polished and sharp for maintenance reasons, but I'm less concerned about them.
post #3 of 18
Actually this question gave me pause to think just how fastidious I have become with maintaining my skis. A ski tune* for me is DIY complete base repair, wax and edge conditioning achieving as close to “new” as possible ready for each outing. I really have never considered what is an average ski tune duration albeit weighted with so many variables. I’ll hang up and read responses.

Good Skiing!

*exception of Base grind/Bevel/Structuring done seasonal.
post #4 of 18
I ski in the East, and I don't tune nearly enough...

I've been on the snow at least 50 days. I tuned about 4 times... This includes edges and wax. I plan on tuning one more time for the last couple weekends of the season, because I plan on doing more freeskiing and fewer lessons (please, J.R.? ) and I really want to work on my technique so I can get rid of a few bad habits and get into a few good ones...

After working on angulation, I don't have much problem with edge hold on ice even if my edges aren't sharp... I will likely tune more next season because I want to really improve my technique and hopefully rock some NASTAR.
post #5 of 18
I touch up my edges after every ski day with Moonflex stones and use a file if needed. Wax with a good all temp wax every few day's when the bases begin to turn whiteish under foot. Had my AC4's stone ground after about 50 days on them.

My old AX3's have about 120day's on them I think they have been stone ground 2 times.

Maybe I'm not average. I don't worry about have perfect ptex. It's the wax that makes them glide.

As long as the edges are sharp and the low fluro all temp wax is gliding I'm a happy camper, well skier.

BTW 1 degree base and 3 degree edge, on all my skis.
post #6 of 18
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Originally Posted by hydrogen_wv View Post
... I will likely tune more next season because I want to really improve my technique and hopefully rock some NASTAR.
Great work on technique and improvement HWV I’ll guarantee as you really hit NASTAR and get even more competitive with your time, your tuning frequency will increase as you “seek to eek” out more speed.
post #7 of 18
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Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
... I am interested how often the AVERAGE skier has their skis tuned. For example, every ten ski days, twice a season, once a season, etc?
I suspect that the "average" skier likely doesn't frequent any ski website much less this particular forum at Epic. My best guess is the "average" skier tunes once at the beginning of the season, if at all. That's assuming they own their own skis. The often industry cited figure has been that the "average" skier skis 7 days per season.
post #8 of 18
I've been tuning once, generally at the end of the season. I will probably wax my new skis every half-dozen times out and tune every 12-15 times out, depending on conditions and how they feel and so forth.
post #9 of 18
I average around 100 days a season... I tune it around once a week
post #10 of 18
I know a lot of people that ski every weekend and NEVER tune...

Matter of fact, I have a co-worker that was trying to demonstrate a stopping wedge... side-stepped up a gentle slope (but steep enough to start gliding easily) and didn't slide at all....

My girlfriend's brother offered to tune his skis... the edges were dull and severely nicked, the bases were white from never getting the wax they need.... No wonder he was always the last one down the hill...
post #11 of 18
If you want to save time and aren't worried about top notch performance...

Wax when the bases start turning white
Sharpen when you can't hold an edge
Stonegrind when tuning doesn't fix the edge-hold problem
post #12 of 18
I sharpen / polish with a diamond stone and wax about every other day. File when needed (probably about 5-6 days), P tex when necessary to fill a problem. Only touch the sides leave the bottom edge angles alone.
post #13 of 18

Tune How Often?

I tune after every four days on snow. Full edge tune and wax.

How full a tune depends on the condition of the skis. If edges are still sharp then a light edge tune or just diamond stone is enough. If burred or damaged then I base and edge file. If damage to the base then I do a P-tex job unless needs a patch. Fix it when it needs it. If you tune often that is not every time.

If you are asking how often to tune then I amassuming your skis are not tuned. What is the point of skiing on a ski that does not perform up to its capabilities? It ruins a part of your ski day.

All that being said if you ski on hard pack/man made/old snow it is a very different story than if you ski in powder and ungroomed, etc.. or like rails and terrain park.

I ski in the East and I cannot stand an untuned ski and would never lend out a ski that is not recently tuned.

Hope this helps

Mike Hoyt
post #14 of 18
I ski 3 to 4 times a week. I will usually wax them twice a week. Diamond stone the edges once a week and file once every 3 weeks or so. I make P-tex repairs as needed before I wax.

I ski with a friend that never tunes his own, or gets a shop tune. He sprays the bases with WD-40 a couple times a season.:
post #15 of 18
Just a touch every week. If you keep them sharp, you don't have to do much to them. Crayon on some wax. Iron. Quick scrap and BRUSH and you are cookin!
post #16 of 18
I'm an east coast skier. I hot wax the skis every time I go out (if possible) but will occasionally go two days between waxing. I use a cheater wax like F4 when I can't hot wax. I sharpen the side edges with diamond stones and a file guide every few ski days or so, as needed, depending on conditions. Very little work is needed if you touch up often. I like sharp edges, so my acid test is to try to shave off a tiny razor thin fleck of my thumbnail by GENTLY rubbing it upwards across the side edge. If you can do that, you can hold on anything.

When I ski the west coast I'm not so agressive with the edges.

Cheers,
WW
post #17 of 18

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post #18 of 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by hydrogen_wv View Post

If you want to save time and aren't worried about top notch performance...

Wax when the bases start turning white
Sharpen when you can't hold an edge
Stonegrind when tuning doesn't fix the edge-hold problem

:beercheer:

 

Ooops, this is what I meant. The all around ski's don't need much work. usually I tune (base edge and wax) mine when I hurt the base, whenever that is.

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