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Trimming A Footbed

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
Right now, I have the best footbed that I have ever had. I am looking at new boots and have discovered that boot fitters expect you to buy a new footbed as part of the deal. Not only do I not want to spend the money, I seriously doubt that the quality of my next footbed could be matched.

How difficult would it be for me to do my own footbed trimming? I plan to drop from a 28 shell to a 27?

Does anyone have experience with bootfitters and new footbed requirements?
post #2 of 21
It is very easy. Just take the foot bed that came in the new boot and use that to trim the old foot bed. line up the heals so that they are perfectly even. Now line up the fore foot so that you capture the center of the impression evenly. Trace a line around the toe area and then just have faith and cut allong the line. IF you leave much more than the shape of what came in the new boot you may cause pressure on the toe area then just widdle it down till it all gells. Good luck any monkey could do this don't worrie.
post #3 of 21
A good bootfitter will use the footbeds you already have as long as they aren't crumbly 20 year old corks.
post #4 of 21
Thread Starter 
I'm gonna try for that, but so far no luck.
post #5 of 21
You got those footbeds from GMOL, right? I would want to keep them too. If they are the blue instaprints, they cut pretty easily. I used giant kitchen scissors on mine. I'm suprised yor bootfitter won't work with them. That's strike one I say. I can see them not wanting to modify them, but unless they can tell you there is something specifically wrong with them, I'd be feeling wary.
post #6 of 21
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
You got those footbeds from GMOL, right? I would want to keep them too. If they are the blue instaprints, they cut pretty easily. I used giant kitchen scissors on mine. I'm suprised yor bootfitter won't work with them. That's strike one I say. I can see them not wanting to modify them, but unless they can tell you there is something specifically wrong with them, I'd be feeling wary.
GMOL, by Nick Blaylock, who has gone West. The footbed is a blue instaprint, and it's nice.

It is going to be difficult to find someone as capable as Nick. At this point I have not found anyone that I would be willing to work with.
post #7 of 21
Buzz,
Call Steiners in Glenmont and ask for "Guric Dardaw".
I'm not sure if the name is spelled right but that is how it sounds.
He didn't have a problem with me using mine over and he does good work.

Steve
post #8 of 21
Bring them to Kton. I'll bring my leatherman and fix 'em up for ya! You know I'm in the sewage industry so if the job I do is $h!tty, it's totally appropriate!
post #9 of 21
Sounds like you need a weeks vacation out west Paul

Go to LGC3 and visit Jeff in Breck for some bootfitting while you're out

I mean, you really have no choice, right? It might even take two weeks.

Good luck!

PS Keep Treck away from your equipment, all she can think about is how to gain a speed advantage over the guys ...who knows what she might do to your footbeds to slow you down.
post #10 of 21
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Originally Posted by Firby View Post
Buzz,
Call Steiners in Glenmont and ask for "Guric Dardaw".
I'm not sure if the name is spelled right but that is how it sounds.
He didn't have a problem with me using mine over and he does good work.

Steve
The guy who carries the foot around with him! Have always been reluctant with Steiners. But I'll go see him.

I have not picked up or even chosen a new boot yet.
post #11 of 21
He carries a foot arround with him?

I like my Falcon 10s if your looking ideas.
post #12 of 21
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He carries a foot arround with him?

I like my Falcon 10s if your looking ideas.
Yeah, he has a boney foot that he carries around with him so he can show you what the foot is doing and what he intends to do to the foot. Looks like a child's foot.

He was one of the guys who already indicated the footbed would need to be replaced.
post #13 of 21
Hold on there - don't just go trimming the front of a footbed and expect it to fit the new boot properly. It may fit right, but it also may not. It's not just about overall length, but also where the the arch section hits your foot. It's quite possible that by only trimming the front off the footbeds that your foot position will end up more rearward on the modified footbeds with the arch of the footbeds hitting more forward. I've been through this - trust me - there's more to it depending on the amount of length change that must be accounted for.
post #14 of 21
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Originally Posted by Noodler View Post
Hold on there - don't just go trimming the front of a footbed and expect it to fit the new boot properly. It may fit right, but it also may not. It's not just about overall length, but also where the the arch section hits your foot. It's quite possible that by only trimming the front off the footbeds that your foot position will end up more rearward on the modified footbeds with the arch of the footbeds hitting more forward. I've been through this - trust me - there's more to it depending on the amount of length change that must be accounted for.
since your heel is set at the back of the boot, and your heel to arch length doesn't change, I don't quite see this. But, yeah, the advice given is correct in most cases, but sometimes it's not so straitforward.
post #15 of 21
2-turn - try not to think of the footbed in "isolation" without the boot shell surrounding it. In isolation (just your foot on the footbed) you're correct, but introduce the shell and its shorter length will sometimes force your foot farther rearward in respect to where the footbed sits in the shell. Kinda hard to visualize, but I've been through it.
post #16 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Noodler View Post
2-turn - try not to think of the footbed in "isolation" without the boot shell surrounding it. In isolation (just your foot on the footbed) you're correct, but introduce the shell and its shorter length will sometimes force your foot farther rearward in respect to where the footbed sits in the shell. Kinda hard to visualize, but I've been through it.
So, therefore trim only the front of the footbed?
post #17 of 21
Paul,
I stayed in the same size shell. I went down a shell size or so last time. This time I just went to a lower volume boot so maybe that was the difference.
I changed from an Icon Carbon to the Falcon 10.
The Falcon is the best fitting boot out of the box for my feet that I've tried since my Sx90s.
I haven't been back for the fit yet but when I talked to Guric he indicated that I would probably just need the footbeds trimed and alignment checked.
I just jammed the old footbeds into the new boots and wore them around the store and house for about 4 hours.
I've been waiting for the boots to pad out more to schedule the appointment.


I think that Noodler is trying to say that your foot will actually be further back in the smaller shell than the larger one, I know that mine was. If that is the case then trimming the front of the footbed won't cut it. You will have to figure out how to get the footbed centered under your foot further back in the liner and probably narrower too.

Steve
post #18 of 21
Thread Starter 
Well that's good to know. Did he have his foot with him? I have his card from the ski show.

I need to get closer to a boot. Falcon 10 may work, also looking at Atomic, they really seem to fit best. I want the soles gound and would like to tie all aspects of work together.

Bz
post #19 of 21
Thread Starter 
Stopped to see him today. He suggested the Falcon 10 and also said a Fisher would be worth a look. Nothing in a 28 or 27.

The foot was there.
post #20 of 21
hey Paul,
nick here. thanks for all of the good support. you should go back up to
GMOL and see bill and matt. trimming a footbed is not as easy as it sounds. it isnt the length that matters but the width. i know funny. but tapering the heel cup and midfoot for width cant be done with scissors. you should just head back up there since they know what to do. as long as your foot hasnt changed or the footbeds have been heated, the footbeds should work fine. they are foot specific not boot specific.
vail is great, sorry to everyone for leaving the east, but what can you do.
post #21 of 21
I have reshaped two pairs of footbeds to make them work.

The first pair was a semi-rigid nylon orthotic made for my walking shoes and these were quite wide in the heel area which prevented them from being inserted into the ski boot liner. Using a grinding wheel, I removed enough material from the orthotic in the heel area to match the ski boot liner. The reason the heel area of the orthotic was so wide was because it was cupped to stablize my ankle. Once I removed this material, I no longer had the benefit of so deep a cup. But the ankle support I received from my ski boots compensated for the lost cup, which was intended to support my feet in low cut street shoes.

Recently I took another pair of footbeds (size 26 Petersen) and ground them down so my wife could use them. I heated the Petersens in the oven at home (about 250 F.) until they flattened out on a metal cookie sheet.

Then I had my wife stand on a two inch thick matt of high density industrial foam rubber which forced the footbed to mold to her foot.

Once cooled down, these old footbeds found a new life in her much smaller ski boots.
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