I skied the 12 with switch this weekend. Edge hold just wont quit. I found the ski to be very precise in carving and not too friendly off-groomed. For me a lot of work. This ski doesn't like to slip the turn. If you want a solid carver at the expense of pretty much all else, this could be it. My experience on the ski ranged from first chair on Kirkwood Cornice lift to fresh steep groomed, to back side fresh groom and chopped powder to very steep off-piste in thunder saddle. It did it all, but I thought it was an awful lot of work when not arcing groomers.