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post #1 of 17
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would appreciate feedback/recommends on your favorite ALL-MOUNTAIN SKI WITH BIAS TOWARDS POW. I ski 60% pow; 40% groomed. just starting to demo the models,and will buy once I determine what best for me.

thanks for any ideas. hank
post #2 of 17
I dig the Axis X and Axis X Pro. You can get a lot of information on them in the gear review section. I also think the Dynastar Big in the 188 and 178 are sweet all-mtn. skis for less than gargantuan folks playing in the pow and on the packed.
post #3 of 17
I will have to echo what bandit said.IMHO The Axis X is to one of the best all around skis out there. great on groomed runs,a good bump ski and it won't leave you wishing for your powder skis if it should start to snow. There are so many realy great skis out there now A lot depends on where you ski and how you ski. For a one ski quiver I would go with the Axis X.I also own a pair of Volant Chubbs in a 178.They are great in deep snow and cut up day old pow.But to my suprise they are really fun on groomed runs.It takes some getting use to rolling that big platform up on edge but once you do get the hang of it They are fun, fun, fun.The Chubb is a vary friendly happy go lucky skis that dispite it's sweet manor won't let you down in the steep and deep.
post #4 of 17
If you are looking for a little more edge in the powder, give the Dynastar Intiutiv 74 a try or the '02 Bandit XX. Both have great float AND also will cruise the groomed well. I'd give a slight edge to the Dynastar because it's narrower tail gives it a little more flexibility in turn shape and in the bumps.

The Axis/Axis Pro/Volkl G3/Bandit X are also great all-mountain skis, but IMHO, they are more geared toward the groomed and crud and don't have quite the same performance in the powder as the two above.
post #5 of 17
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tag:
If you are looking for a little more edge in the powder, give the Dynastar Intiutiv 74 a try or the '02 Bandit XX. Both have great float AND also will cruise the groomed well. I'd give a slight edge to the Dynastar because it's narrower tail gives it a little more flexibility in turn shape and in the bumps.

The Axis/Axis Pro/Volkl G3/Bandit X are also great all-mountain skis, but IMHO, they are more geared toward the groomed and crud and don't have quite the same performance in the powder as the two above.
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I think Intuitiv 74 replaced the 4x4 ATV (my skis). I demoed the 4x4 last year and owned a pair the same weekend, for that matter I couldn't look at my old pencil skis ever again. 4x4 do everything: powder, crud, corduroy, bumps, and without compromises on top. I love them. I believe the 74 should be very similar, slightly easier to carve, slightly more tricky to skid with.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ January 22, 2002 11:31 AM: Message edited 1 time, by noodles ]</font>
post #6 of 17
I agree with Tag, but I would say to look at the fatter boards if your percentages are 75% off-piste and 25% on. Midfats have grown at the waist since 1997, and are much more fun in the powder now. I skied my Axis X about 80% off-piste last Sat/Sun and it was a freakin' blast.

Of course, I haven't skied any of the fatter (73mm +) waisted skis, so I don't know what I'm missing in not skiing a true fatty.
post #7 of 17
Hi Hank, I returned that PM you sent me, so check your my profile.

Rossignol Bandit XX is the first ski you should demo. Pretty good float, and its still very good around the rest of the mountain. If the XX isn't enough float for you, you need to start looking at fats. Lots of people are now skiing fats as all mountain skis. The new fats like Atomic 10.EX, Volkl G4, Rossi XXX are versatile enough to handle it. But its really only practical if you live in a high snow area. Since you're from Santa Fe, I think a "tweener" ski like the XX is the better bet.

Also, you seemed to be interested in Salomon before in your PM to me. I'm hearing about a next generation Salomon SuperMountain ski coming out next season. It'll have the same spaceframe construction as the PocketRocket. Hell, if you can find an old Salomon SuperMountain from last season (they stopped making it this year), thats a great "all mountain bias toward off piste" ski. Salomon realized they made a huge mistake in discontinuing it.

Some other ideas, if you want a twintip, the K2 Enemy is based off the old K2 Xplorer. If you get one of the longer lengths, the Enemy is good as an all mountain board.
post #8 of 17
Matter, isn't that new ski really a Pilot System Pocket Rocket and not a new Super Mountain? Or are two different skis coming out?

Salomon would be wise to reintroduce the Super Mountain with a bit of tweaking to add the typical Salomon powerful tail kick, which I never experienced when skiing the Super Mountain.
post #9 of 17
Salomon has lots of changes coming for next year...

redesigned spaceframe 1080 (fatter, but not PR fat)

AK Rocket Pilot, spaceframe construction, 195 length

rumored spaceframe SuperMtn - The Pocket Rocket isn't proving to be as popular an all mountain ski as they hoped. I think we'll see the Super back.

I still can't believe Salomon stopped making the SuperMtn. It was wide, but skied well all over. The other funny thing about it, it was a huge hit with tele skiers.

Dynastar did the same thing with the Powertrac this year. Everyone loved that ski, but they replaced it anyway with the Intuitive 69. Sure enough, a new burly Powertrac w/autodrive is back next year.
post #10 of 17
I agree completely about the SuperMountain. I demo'd it last season in a 186, found it remarkable suitable for hardpack and bumps. I took it to my local "good snow" area and it turned out to be a hardpack day. I even brought along the X-Scream Series in case conditions were bad, but the SuperMountain was so fun, I stayed on that ski all day.

what was the waist size on that ski? I can't recall. I thought it was 72mm but was it bigger?
post #11 of 17
See my review of the Fischer 74, formerly known as the Alltrax, now the Big Stix.

I do like them. Underrated little known ski.

It's bigger bro the 84 too.
post #12 of 17
Wasn't the Super a 78-mm waist? 110-mm tip and 100-mm tail?
post #13 of 17
Super was something like 110/78/100. I remember it was 78 underfoot. (edit, Bandit is right, the tip was 100, not 112)

Salomon always has lots of stuff in the works. Most of it never sees daylight. They've been experimenting with the Pilot Rocket for like 2 years now. I hope they decide to do a new Super. Only reason not to is if they want the new 1080 to essentially cover that ground.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ January 22, 2002 03:21 PM: Message edited 1 time, by Matter ]</font>
post #14 of 17
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by noodles:


I think Intuitiv 74 replaced the 4x4 ATV (my skis). I demoed the 4x4 last year and owned a pair the same weekend, for that matter I couldn't look at my old pencil skis ever again. 4x4 do everything: powder, crud, corduroy, bumps, and without compromises on top. I love them.
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Ditto. I"m on an ATV, from the 4x4 line up and what a ski... find something like that if you can.

Irulan
post #15 of 17
Question on the Salomon SuperMountains:
Did they have a Pilot Binding?

If not, then this might explain why they have been dropped.


S
post #16 of 17
I would also give the Volant Ti Powercarves a try (new model is the T3).
post #17 of 17
You cannot go wrong with the AXIS. Great all mountain mid fat that does everything well.

SUPER MTN's?? These are great for soft snow, but my experience is that it is one of the worst hard pack skis period (not quite as bad as the AK Rocket). For versatility purpouses only, there are much better skis out there such as the AXIS, BANDIT's, G3's, ect.

Just my experience with the skis. Everyone skis differently so I'm not bashing the Super's, they just did not work with my skiing style.

Next season '02/03 Salomon is offering more Piolet options. But I did not see the Super coming back.

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ January 23, 2002 08:12 AM: Message edited 1 time, by Argus ]</font>
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