EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › Boot recommendations need..
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Boot recommendations need..

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
I am in need of some new boots.
weigh ~170lbs
ski everything; blacks, groomers, park. Prefer park and blacks.
have tiny feet (9.5US)
ride 178 Volkl AX4's

I plan on keeping the boots for a long time, so I'd rather get a quality pair.

Anywho, I'd really appreciate some boot suggestions before I plunk down a lot of money. I'm definitely not opposed to testing stuff out..I would just like a general idea of what I should be looking at before hand.

Thanks in advance,
post #2 of 13
Your best bet is to try on lots of upper end boots from different lines to see which lines fit the best then come back with a list & we'll help you narrow your selection down. Fit is the upmost concern with new boots.
post #3 of 13
Rio is correct. If you can't do that then provide some measurements: length, width at mid foot, instep- high,low, medium (if unsure, use a tape measure from the back of the heel around the top of your foot where it is highest and back to the heel), heel size-narrow, medium, wide, toes- average long, short and so forth. This information may help to narrow things down to some obvious choices.
post #4 of 13
Reading Jeff Bergeron's posts might also help steer you toward some appropriate choices. Some suggestions for trying boots out in shops:

1. Check how different boots fit, without the liner but with your footbeds in them (if you use footbeds) as well as with the liner in. Any place your foot touches the shell with the liner removed means a problem that will need to be fixed or it will almost certainly cause painful problems when you are skiing.

2. The thicker the liner the more it will usually pack out, and often in just a few days of skiing. Very tight in the shop is no problem but pain or hot spots will likely be. Since your foot spreads out throughout the day, the best time for trying on boots is in the afternoon.

3. Your foot should come quite close to the sides of the the boot with the liner removed without actually touching them, just a few mm's, not much more. Also, leave them on for a while in the shop with the liners in to see what develops.

4. A common rule of thumb is a 3/4's -1 finger space between your heel and the back of the inside of the boot for a "performance" fit or 2 fingers for a "comfort" fit. In the right boot a 3/4's- 1 finger fit should still be totally comfortable when skiing. Racers commonly go for a 1/2 finger or even closer fit. Finger size is relative but you get the idea. Usually, this means going down at least one and frequently two full sizes from your street shoe size. If your toes touch the front of the boot with the lines in, flex to seat your heel in the boot and see if it eliminates the problem.

5. Shell flex means little in the shop at warm temps. so you will need to quiz the bootfitters about that. Some boots stiffen up in the cold much more than others. There really isn't much standardization of flex indexes between manufacturers much like is the case with ski trails (blue, back etc.) among different ski areas. It's mostly relative within a given manufacturer's line.

6. Find the boot that comes closest to your footshape and intended uses and then have whatever modifications made that you need.

7. Good boots that fit properly much more important than good skis and last much longer. Knowledgeable, talented bootfitters are, unfortunately, much more the exception than the rule. But check out Epic's list of recommended bootfitter's to see who might be listed in your area . Good luck.
post #5 of 13
lostboys ideas are good and all but really

buy the red boots, they go faster

blue for moguls

green are for comfort, not performance
post #6 of 13
Originally Posted by mntlion View Post
lostboys ideas are good and all but really

buy the red boots, they go faster

blue for moguls

green are for comfort, not performance
Er, excuse me but the yellow/black three piece shell boots are best for moguls. It was proven during the recent Olympics. Blue boots are totally out though some blue skis still rock (but yellow is even better.)

Yeah, red boots are always wicked fast but Phil P. may not agree that green boots are for comfort only.
post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 
Any ideas on what flex range should I be looking for?
post #8 of 13
With boots, if it fits - buy it.

Flex is a consideration, and color is not to be underestimated. Seriously, I've had only 2 pairs of boots that ever fit, didn't hurt my feet and performed.

One had a custom Intuition liner (heat-molded to foot), and the other were Conformable foam liners in SpeedMachine 14's.

Only 1 in 10 people can fit a boot off the rack. Everyone else needs work. If you're lucky, a stock boot with a stock liner will work.

If not, I suggest foam. Doesn't work for everyone, but it worked for me.
post #9 of 13
OK Guys everyone Knows that a Nice Yellow/Orange Boot gives the best over all performance Besides they are the real deal Chick magnets. Every time I wear mine Babes just have to ride the lift with me.
post #10 of 13
So the fact that my Rossi FreeX boots... the only ones I tried on fit perfect on me, is amazing?

I've only worn 2 pairs of ski boots in my life.. a set of rental boots and my FreeX boots.. Shame my Inlines (I believe) caused A bunion on my right foot... Now I have to get my boots stretched... and, unfortunately, should get surgery...
post #11 of 13
Originally Posted by hydrogen_wv View Post
So the fact that my Rossi FreeX boots... the only ones I tried on fit perfect on me, is amazing? ...
If that's your history, sacrifice a goat to the Ski Gods. They've blessed you.

Most people I know wrestle endlessly with boots; fit vs. performance.

Getting a comfy, cushy fit in the store is easy. Finding a boot that stays comfy when you're pushing a couple of G's on hardpack, while demanding responsive, quick peformance, is more elusive.

Ironically, beginners are usually happy in anything that clamps onto their foot (I'm not suggesting this is you), while racers fuss endlessly with their fit.

Performance and comfort aren't always hand-in-hand.

In your case, you got lucky. It's time to fire-up that goat!
post #12 of 13
Yeah... I've ehard some horror stories about boots before I went in to try to find some... I wasn't planning on buying that day either...

I went in and asked about used boots... 1 pair...
Rossi Free X, used 1 day then returned, $500+ boots for $100
Tried them on... perfect fit... a little roomy in a couple places, but superfeet pretty much fixed that... I wear them from from 8am until 4pm usually... some days I've worn them from 8am until 8pm... no unbuckling, no removing them... Feet were happy to be out of them, but not sore at all..

Until I got my bunion they were perfect.. they are at the shop getting stretched now to accomodate my new deformity.

Anyone have a goat I can borrow...? I'll give it back... I promise...
post #13 of 13
Once I tried them on, I knew that me and those boots were meant to be.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Ski Gear Discussion
EpicSki › The Barking Bear Forums › On the Snow (Skiing Forums) › Ski Gear Discussion › Boot recommendations need..