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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 
OK, I'm chomping at the bit here. I've watched every W.M. Movie in my collection twice, I'm walking around my apartment in my boots, and all sorts of other manic behavior. Here's what I'm wondering; I bought my wife her 1st pair of skis this year, K2 Escape 3500. She's a novice, on the edge of intermediate ability.
We have a trip to Breckenridge planned for 12/6. She'd really like to get out and try the new gear on familiar terrain B4 heading out West for the real deal. Her most exotic locale to date has been Sugarbush VT.
Do I take her out Thanksgiving wknd. to endure the crowds in marginal conditions, possibly risking injury (she's a nervous nelly), or just save it up for CO?
If I get up to Mt. Snow or Okemo and it looks like the ice capades, she's def. gonna start the season on a bad note. Flip side, If she skis her new gear this early and gets a positive vibe, it'll probably set her up 4 a great season.
Any feedback from those who've BT,DT? :
post #2 of 21
I think you should take ME to Breckenridge instead.
post #3 of 21
I'll speak for the "nervous nellie" point of view. She will have a better experience at Colorado if she gets a little practice time first. Keep it VERY low pressure, though. OKemo has the lowest a$$hole quotient in NE, so that may be your best choice.
Another option is to do a group lesson. Instructors usually know which part of the mountain will have good conditions.
post #4 of 21
I always get kind of freaked out the first day of skiing a new season. I don't put on any kind of pressure, just poop around and get the feel for the snow again. By the end of that day, confidence is higher, fun quotient is way up, and new learning is beginning.

The next time I ski it's All Good.

Go for a putt after turkey day, and get the "first day jitters" out of the way. If you're fearing injury, you'll never have fun, and the best way to get rid of fear is skill, which comes from doing. :
post #5 of 21
Let's see, I'm buying my wife a new car that she' not familiar with; do I take her out on a 5 lane highway right away or should we go around the neighborhood a few times first?
Sorry for the sarcasm.

No, don't take her out once before you go. Take her a couple of times.

Keep skiing faster! :

FlipFlopFly
post #6 of 21
I suggest that you take the most relaxed approach possible. Don't rush in the morning. It really won't matter if you are there at 8:30 or 10:00am. Make a few runs on the easiest slope you can find, then go for a long lunch at a restaurant with waiter service. After lunch she'll be the one psyched for a longer trail and chairlift ride to more advanced beginner terrain. Before you know it she'll say, "you must be eager to go ski some more challenging slopes... go and meet me later" [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

I have to make a big effort on the first day to be patient with the traffic/parking/ticket purchase/gearing up process. If I'm too antsy, my wife gets annoyed, nervous and anything can happen then! If you know what I mean!

We're heading to Breck/Vail for Christmas. How about a post about Breckenridge when you get back? Enjoy!
post #7 of 21
Dear XDog,

Unless you want to change from "Former (ex-dog) Dog" to "Current Dog" I would go with Lisa Marie on this one. Put your lovely and talented wife in a lesson. Besides the value of increasing her skills, you won't be accused of pushing your wife beyond her comfort level. Otherwise, skiing is like voting in Chicago - do it early and often - because there is no substitute for mileage. Bottom line - it should be fun.

Good luck. And next time come to Utah.

IG
post #8 of 21
Don't know what kind of drive it is for you but I would suggest whiteface just because its off the radar screen for most people on Turkey day. Whiteface will have mixing bowl open which is their bunny hill. Okemo is also a good choice but I think it will be more crowded then Whiteface will.
post #9 of 21
Thread Starter 
OK, thanx for the input.
Carvemeister, maybe after we get to know each other.
Gladeator, will certainly give the full report.
FFF, nearest skiing 4 me is 4 hrs. away, so a "couple of times" is not an option". BTW, a car is a car and driving is a lot easier than skiing (wisea$$).
I'll letcha know how it all plays out!
post #10 of 21
you have got to be kidding a whole 4 hrs away & you can't go a couple times I'd be camped in the parking lot every chance I got, if I could drive 10 hrs to ski anything worth while it would be every weekend & I'd make some long weekends even the wife would be up for that.
just my .02 bteddy
post #11 of 21
I was up at Killington this weekend and conditions were pretty decent (actually, for November they were great). Certainly some icey spots, and some crowds, but not too bad. With a week of cold weather and natural snow conditions in VT should be pretty good this coming weekend. Last year I skied Okemo and Killington early season and conditions at Okemo were better (less crowded too). If it's doable, you might be better off taking a Monday or Friday and going next weekend to avoid the crowds of T-day weekend. Good luck and have fun.
post #12 of 21
Hi Xdog; imagine you are doing something quite new to you in a very foreign environment, and thousands of people around you are whizzing by when you're just struggling to keep standing. A little like learning to drive a car in LA freeway rush hour. It will be exacerbated by the fact that you will lose patience because there's 8" of fresh pow you wanna rip and you're babysitting her. I've seen a number of vacations totally destroyed this way.

Book her in a lesson program. She will be with skiers at her own level in the hands of an instructor, with priority lift loading. When you go on vacation, she may not be as fanatical as you to get first tracks and close down the lifts, eating on the fly. Let her get up leisurely, ski when and where she wants, and keep in touch with FRS radios. Don't try to show off or take her on terrain she isn't ready for... she won't be impressed.

Remember, you'll be on vacation, which shouldn't be an endurance test. Having fun for all is priority one!
post #13 of 21
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Originally posted by Xdog:
OK, I'm chomping at the bit here. I've watched every W.M. Movie in my collection twice, I'm walking around my apartment in my boots, and all sorts of other manic behavior. Here's what I'm wondering; I bought my wife her 1st pair of skis this year, K2 Escape 3500. She's a novice, on the edge of intermediate ability.
We have a trip to Breckenridge planned for 12/6. She'd really like to get out and try the new gear on familiar terrain B4 heading out West for the real deal. Her most exotic locale to date has been Sugarbush VT.
Do I take her out Thanksgiving wknd. to endure the crowds in marginal conditions, possibly risking injury (she's a nervous nelly), or just save it up for CO?
If I get up to Mt. Snow or Okemo and it looks like the ice capades, she's def. gonna start the season on a bad note. Flip side, If she skis her new gear this early and gets a positive vibe, it'll probably set her up 4 a great season.
Any feedback from those who've BT,DT? :
Breck has some of the best terrain for your wife. So if you can't find a calm area to go to not to worry. Grab a map and go to the ski school area of the mountain. Comfortable chair and easy does it terrain to warm up. Breck is mostly a gentle mountain.

The first day for sure is her day. Get up, have a nice breakfast, leisure to the mountain, and have a lot of laughs skiing. Once in a while if she is comfortable you can grab a chair up and come back to meet her. When she wants to give it up meet her at the bar, for lunch, snacks, or whatever but DONT be a DUDE.

If a lesson is in her then so be it. Some will some won't. Once she sees the others in lessons she may realise she is as good if not better. All about trust and confidence.

Have a great time. I will be in the area at the same time.
post #14 of 21
I think Floyd's advice is really good.

I did so many beginner days skiing at Breck. The wide open blue runs are very nurturing. Now that I am doing a few days per year on a snowboard, Breck is still where I want to go to get my legs working.

I've also taken plenty of lessons at Breck. They are really great over there. No lift lines and lots of good company at your own level. Lesson days are always fun.

And if you are a more advance skier, there is terrain for you too!

Have fun!
post #15 of 21
Thread Starter 
Let me say for certain, I'm no teacher! I know this and I put all the faith in the world in the pros. I take lessons 25% of the days I ski, and I put my wife in a lesson more often than that. I credit good instructors with what I consider to be my relatively fast achievement of upper intermediate skill. Don't worry, I'm no "macho man". My real concern here was just whether we should go and ski vermont in less-than-ideal conditions, or just wait for CO. I figured if it's real icy or crappy, and she gets hurt or turned off, I'm in a bad spot (all the CO arrangements are nonrefundable!)
But that's all decided. We're goin up Fri. to Okemo, and skiing 2.5 days. Looks like conditions will be rather good for this time of the year, and I'll be back with the full report!
Thanx 4 the opinions!
post #16 of 21
Thread Starter 
Well, I declare the weekend a success!
We arrived @ Okemo 12:15 PM Fri. and bought half day tickets. It was snowing when we got there and conditions were mint for early season. My wife and I enjoyed some easy green runs together to try out our new skis and boots, then I split to hit the blues.
Long story short, we had 2.5 great days of early season skiing and we're primed and ready for Breckenridge!
She still needs a lot of work, so I'm getting her a full day lesson at Breck to help her get parallel.
And I finally decided to test out a few diamonds and surprised myself, even though I get the feeling they were pretty tame.
Overall cond. at Okemo were VG in general, and excellent for NOVEMBER!
You should go!
post #17 of 21
Now that you have skied in the east, I can get you psyched for Breck. I skied there last Monday in 10 inches of fresh dry powder. Wednesday was already pretty much packed powder, but under cloudless skies. Overall the coverage is quite good for early season. We're expecting more snow this week. Have fun and have a great trip!
post #18 of 21
...as mentioned, book lessons...if in powder, rent/demo some FAT
sticks! I'd also print out a few of the *speed control* and *balance* threads for travel_reading. There's nothing like
attaining that mental image before taking in_person lessons...you can get a lot more out of em'.
post #19 of 21
hmm, I'm surprised no one mantioned that Breck has one of the easiest green's I've ever seen -- not that I've seen too many.

For her first run, take her straight to QuickSilver lift. If you're at the resort, you'll exit left, ski downhill a bit to get on the lift. Then ski down Silverthorn. It's like a super long bunny slope with a few "real" green sections. If your wife needs another run, no probs! The lift is fast.

Have fun!

I'll be there too
post #20 of 21
Xdog,
Request Jan Degerburg for your wife if you can get her. She's a PSIA trainer and a superb instructor. She taught Women's classes on Friday's last year.

Bong
post #21 of 21
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the tips folks, sounds like some of you have been in my shoes. I'll be sure to hit that run and I'll definitely inquire about Jan.
Doesn't look like much powder in the forecast, but I'm holding out hope!
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