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Mogul scoring

post #1 of 13
Thread Starter 
Any mogul judges here?

Does anyone know how to interpret mogul scoring? My son (age 9) did his first B competition on 2/17 and these were his scores:
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                 T&L-->  Air--->
No Bib Name Cl   J.1 J.2 J.3  Jumps  DofD        Judge Time  Pts  Run 
49 28 LANKA,John 2.5 2.4 11/9 S/T    0.710/0.670 8.73  41.25 1.18 9.91
How do you get 9.91 out of those numbers? I can't figure it out.

This is taken from the Eastfree.org website here: http://eastfree.org/results/2007/Okemo%20Sat.HTM

And here is a video of his run on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9aRwxepQbo
post #2 of 13
Hi SkiDork

I'm not a judge, but I am a Freestyle Coach, and hopefully this info will help you out.

Marks are awarded for the technical quality of the skier's turns (50%), the two upright aerial manoeuvres (25%) and speed (25%). While speed is a factor, the fastest skier across the finish line does not necessarily win.

There are some detailed pdfs at the link below, keep in mind though that this is how it is scored in alberta, Canada. It may be slightly different whereever you are, but not much.

http://www.abfreestyle.com/Resources_Judges.htm
post #3 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the link. Interesting reading.

Unfortunately, it still doesn't explain to my feeble mind how they arrive at 9.91 with those numbers.
post #4 of 13
I'm at work so I don't have time to do the Math, sorry but the skier's final score shoule be determined by adding the average of the two Air jump scores to the total of Turns and the Speed score.

edit to say:

you may want to consult your child's coach. Sometimes the scoring format differs depending on the event. If this is a club or bumps and jumps event (entry level), the scoring may be done a bit different to that of a higher end event.
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 
This is a B competition in New England, under the rules of the Eastern Freestyle Competition Committee, which is sanctioned under USSA.
post #6 of 13
I had a quick look at their website and they didn't have any documents I could see regarding calculating the score. Honsetly to get the answer you are looking for you are better off emailing: Judges@eastfree.org them and asking them exactly how they arrived at the score.

Sorry I could not be of more help to you SkiDork
post #7 of 13
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by DedReer View Post
I had a quick look at their website and they didn't have any documents I could see regarding calculating the score. Honsetly to get the answer you are looking for you are better off emailing: Judges@eastfree.org them and asking them exactly how they arrived at the score.

Sorry I could not be of more help to you SkiDork
I'll do that. Thanks for the tip.
post #8 of 13
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the suggestion on e-mailing them. They came back quickly with an explanation:

given this:

49 28 LANKA,John 2.5 2.4 11/9 S/T 0.710/0.670 8.73 41.25 1.18 9.91

The algorithm is as follows:

(2.5+2.4) + ((2.5+2.4)/2) + (1.1*.71) + (0.9*.67) + 1.18 = 9.91 (rounded to hundredths)

The missing link was the fact that they add the average of the turns and line into it (the 2nd part of the equation above)
post #9 of 13
My pleasure SkiDork, I'm glad they sorted it out for you, and very quickly too, not all judges are that prompt!

Hopefully John had a great time at the competition.
post #10 of 13
I have a question, what is D of D stands for and on what basis and scale is that Point(1.8) was given? In addition, I am still not clear why the air points have to be multiplied with the D of D?
post #11 of 13
DofD = Degree of Difficulty (for your air manouvers)

All tricks are assigned a DofD, these tricks are done in the air so that is why they are multiplied by the air score.

A 360 would have a higher DD than lets say a twister/spread. That does not mean that the skier doing the 369 will score higher than the skier doing the twister/spread.

If the skier doing the 360 checks thier speed coming into the air, performs it "so so" they could very be beaten by a skier who goes huge off the air and does a clean twister spread.
post #12 of 13
It may be really stupid and I have no idea what the numbers really mean, but you get 9.91 if you add together the Judge Score (8.73) and the Points (1.18), you get the 9.91.
post #13 of 13
There are 4 different sets of scores already, where is the "points" score coming from? Is that a speed score?
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