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post #1 of 38
Thread Starter 
The trip is upon us and I am now reading some weather reports for when we will be there.

Of these ski areas, Snowbird, Alta, Solitude and Snowbasin, which areas are effected by the wind that forces chairlift closures??

I know occasionally Snowbird reports lift closures. How about the others??

How much wind before the Tram shuts down??

Seems that Solitude would be the best area to ski on a windy day??

Info please and thanks!!
post #2 of 38

wind?

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Originally Posted by Sugaree View Post
The trip is upon us and I am now reading some weather reports for when we will be there.

Of these ski areas, Snowbird, Alta, Solitude and Snowbasin, which areas are effected by the wind that forces chairlift closures??

I know occasionally Snowbird reports lift closures. How about the others??

How much wind before the Tram shuts down??

Seems that Solitude would be the best area to ski on a windy day??

Info please and thanks!!
I think your obsessing a little bit too much about your trip...don't worry about the wind...just go ski!

As for the tram...ride it once and be done with it...it's basically for tourists. :
post #3 of 38
Thread Starter 
I hear ya. I've got one more night around the house and
then I will be computer free for a week. Thank God!!

I just want to ski Utah!!
post #4 of 38
Driving snow, wind blowing in tracks=happy knuckleheads. You picked the right week.

PS. wind is rarely a factor. If it's blowing hard enough to close a lift, you want to be on the other side of whichever mountain you're at- or inside with a hot chockolate.
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post #5 of 38
Here's my buddy John yesterday. (The other tracks are mine. I was on the other side of the lens.)
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post #6 of 38
Perfect. More tomorrow...
post #7 of 38

Help me make the call for tomorrow

Bird or Basin?


(Have 4 beginners and 14 slavering powfiends in group)
post #8 of 38
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Originally Posted by comprex View Post
Bird or Basin?
Try the Basin, the bird looked pretty tracked out at 5:00 when I drove by...

And the beginners will thank you for it too!
post #9 of 38
hey comprex, in same situation, got weathered out my flight home today, oh well, that gave me a couple extra hours in heavy snowfall at alta today, powder was about 12" new, another ski day tomorrow, it is a toss-up snowbasin it is! (we already did the bird).
post #10 of 38
>Of these ski areas, Snowbird, Alta, Solitude and Snowbasin, which areas are effected by the wind that forces chairlift closures??
that is way too much info you are looking for. these places are not going to "close" because of wind.
>How much wind before the Tram shuts down??
usually when it is hard to stand up without getting blown over they shut it down. they will let you up there with zero visibility no problem

note: Tram is not just for tourists!!@@!! There are always plenty of obvious locals, chatting away about this and that. It is always a privledge to ride that tram with my "tribe".
post #11 of 38
Check the totals in the a.m. Basin will be fewer people, probably. Snow advisory all along the Wasatch front until 4am. Snow started in PC at about 8;30 a.m., tapered off around sundown and now is dumping again, heavy. Will be good everywhere, I expect. Storms expected Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Sunday.
post #12 of 38
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Originally Posted by SnowbirdDevotee View Post
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note: Tram is not just for tourists!!@@!! There are always plenty of obvious locals, chatting away about this and that. It is always a privledge to ride that tram with my "tribe".
Hehe...knew that would get a rise out of you...OK Sugaree, if you must ride the tram just don't do it first thing in the morning on a powder day...It will take you an hour to get to the top of the mountain while the "locals" riding the lifts will be chewing your lines for breakfast!

Rather, try the Peruvian lift...if there's a line, do short hike (I know, there's no hiking at Snowbird) up to the "ski school lane" and traverse (no traversing there either) over to the Gadzoom Quad...much better choice.

And, you know what they say..."F" the tribe...there's no friends on a powder day!
post #13 of 38
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Originally Posted by sjcoll View Post
I think your obsessing a little bit too much about your trip...don't worry about the wind...just go ski!

As for the tram...ride it once and be done with it...it's basically for tourists. :
I guess you dont like the cirque much do you?
post #14 of 38
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
I guess you dont like the cirque much do you?
Love the cirque and all the terrain off of it (Barry Barry Steep my favorite run at the Bird)!...can be easily accessed from the "Little Cloud Chair".

...by traversing of course...
post #15 of 38
Thread Starter 
Holy Geeeez......
Alta reporting 19" overnight!!
2' expected overnight tonight!!
I can't believe this is happening a day or 2 before our first trip to Utah!!
This is going to EPIC!!!
Do they rent snorkels at Alta??
post #16 of 38
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Originally Posted by sjcoll View Post
Love the cirque and all the terrain off of it (Barry Barry Steep my favorite run at the Bird)!...can be easily accessed from the "Little Cloud Chair".
like i didnt know that.:P

you need 2 slow chairs instead of one fast tram to get the top. PX to tunnel and MBX is a viable alternative but you cant get to Great Scott, Silver Fox, or most of the upper cirque from Little Cloud.

Also FYI Barry Barry Steep isnt a 'local" run name, tourist. the "actual" runs names over there are South Chute, Restaurant Roll, Eddies Moe's Bowl, Forbidden Forest, Strainer, Taxwoods Slide.

Tram sitting on slow lifts when there is no tram line
post #17 of 38
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Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA View Post
Also FYI Barry Barry Steep isnt a 'local" run name, tourist. the "actual" runs names over there are South Chute, Restaurant Roll, Eddies Moe's Bowl, Forbidden Forest, Strainer, Taxwoods Slide.
Ha...you troller you!

You know...I always thought that the "Barry Barry Steep" was a stupid name...see what I miss by not riding the tram! You will concede that it's a great run on a powder day though...right?

...and of course you're right about Great Scott and Silver Fox, although I believe you can access most of the upper cirque from the traverse.
post #18 of 38
yeah - plus the 26 of Saturday ... you will be getting the goods for sure - looking forward to the trip report!
post #19 of 38
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Originally Posted by Sugaree View Post
I hear ya. I've got one more night around the house and
then I will be computer free for a week. Thank God!!
Lucky us!!!!


have a fun trip
post #20 of 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sugaree View Post
Holy Geeeez......
Alta reporting 19" overnight!!
2' expected overnight tonight!!
I can't believe this is happening a day or 2 before our first trip to Utah!!
This is going to EPIC!!!
Do they rent snorkels at Alta??
Uh...you do know that Alta will be completely tracked out by 9:02AM by hordes of mouth frothing locals that haven't seen anything deeper than 12" in two months, don't you?

Oh, and all those 'locals' on the Tram are just a bunch of wanabes trying to talk the talk. Trouble is, they are all just talkin' to the other wanabes
post #21 of 38
Thread Starter 
Our first day to ski is Thursday. With these storms having dumped on all the areas we want to ski....I have a question.

Being from the NorthEast USA we don't ski a lot of powder. I am expecting a few runs to "find" our turns in the off-piste.
Snowbird, Alta, Solitude or Snowbasin for the first day??
Personally I don't want to fight the powder crowd at Alta. Maybe Snowbird, though I was hoping for a sunny day to ski Snowbird. (good luck).
I am sort of thinking Solitude or Snowbasin would have less crowds and less tracks=A Blast.

Any help deciding??
post #22 of 38
You could spend day one visiting the Temples in SLC. This way you needn't worry about all that fresh powder!

Hope you guys have VERY wide skis! Oh no I gave you something else to obsess about!!!!!!
post #23 of 38
Thread Starter 
I'm just enjoying the ride.

Not concerned about the width of my ski's. (75mm)

Skiing isn't the only thing I obsess about. Scary, EH.

Just trying to keep the forum active.
post #24 of 38
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Originally Posted by Powdr View Post
Uh...you do know that Alta will be completely tracked out by 9:17AM by hordes of mouth frothing locals that haven't seen anything deeper than 12" in two months, don't you?
Fixed it for ya.
post #25 of 38
Hey Suger- It's been steller powder skiing the last four days and today looks like another one. Here's a tip that'll make things even more fun. Reserve a pair of fatties at Deep Powder House at Alta or Coles at PC. I don't know the other resorts as well, I'm sure people can recommend. At 96 + underfoot today's fatties turn like yesterdays carvers and are really excellent at busting crud as well as floating in pow. I recommend anything by Salomon- Pocket Rocket, Gun , etc. or Volkl's Aura. If at Alta, do grab a lessen first day out, really- with an instructor you jump the lift line and they know stashes and lines even hardenend altaholics don't. We've been skiing untracked powder well past noon all week even with the crowds because visitors really don't know where to go and when... I'm at PCMR now but had an Alta pass for a long time and there's always good skiing if you know where to look. I guess I'm harping on the instructor/guide thing- but you saw Lonnie's pic. You can bet that ain't on the trailmap...
post #26 of 38
Thread Starter 
Thanks Mr. Crab.

How much for a lesson at Alta and can we pick up a lesson upon arrival??
Would it be a group lesson or private??

Probably will not do the fat thing.

Our first day we have decided on Snowbasin. Looks we have hooked up with a patroller there. I am sure he will have some powder tips for us as well as pointing us in the right direction for TERRAIN!!!

I am bringing my Elan Magfire 10. All mountain ski. Love this ski.
post #27 of 38
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Originally Posted by Sugaree View Post
Being from the NorthEast USA we don't ski a lot of powder. I am expecting a few runs to "find" our turns in the off-piste.
Snowbird, Alta, Solitude or Snowbasin for the first day??
Personally I don't want to fight the powder crowd at Alta. Maybe Snowbird, though I was hoping for a sunny day to ski Snowbird. (good luck).
I am sort of thinking Solitude or Snowbasin would have less crowds and less tracks=A Blast.

Any help deciding??

I'll suggest Snowbasin, specifically the Strawberry area. It's got plenty of wide-open slopes that are very moderately pitched. Plenty of spots to dabble in Utah's finest and then jump back onto a groomed run if you desire. The very top of the gondola can be socked in if it's stormy, but you can feel your way down the groomed slope to better light pretty easily. Once you get your "powder feet" under you, head to John Paul and traverse out into Mt. Ogden Bowl or ride The Needles Express and "skate" out to 1-19.
post #28 of 38

Go To Alta

GO TO ALTA!...or the Bird. Don't worry about what others are saying about it being tracked out in 10 mins...'taint so.

Save Snowbasin or Solitude for the weekend!
post #29 of 38
Wherever you go it'll be great. Group lessons at Alta are cheap: http://www.alta.com/pages/adult.php I'm partial to Alta because I learned to ski at Alta's ski school twenty years ago. Kept at it for years and learned the whole mountain in the process. The diamond challenge is amazing. It's not the bunny hill.
But, hell. you scored. I'm taking the morning off because after four straight days, I'm beat. Also there's this little thing called work. A lot of the locals are exhausted and at the point of being fired or divorced, so don't worry about crowds. The Prez day people are gone. Basin on the weekend is still a good call. Or really anyplace. I could bag freshies down my street right now. It's dumping again.

Ps. It's just nuking out there. Visibilty out my windows is about 200 ft, and I'm around base level. Watch for canyon closures.
post #30 of 38
Thread Starter 
The schedule is beginning to shape up.

Thurs....Snowbasin
Friday....Alta
Sunday....Snowbird
Monday.....Solitude.

The fact is I am as excited to ski Snowbasin as Snowbird and I am as excited to ski Solitude as I am Alta. There are no favorites as of yet.

I am sure none of it will be as good as Sugarloaf here in Maine, anyway.

YA RIGHT!!!!

Thanks for all the info.
You guys have all been great!!
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