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Storm skiing shelters?

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
Hi storm skiers, there are resorts particularly larger ones which have lodges
up on their mountains however many resorts just have one or more base lodges
by their parking lot. When skiing the mountain on stormy days, the storm skier
needs a place to occasionally deal with gear problems. Like the wet goggles,
or the trail map you can't find in your pockets because they are clogged with
bulging extra items underneath multiple clothing layers. Or what about the head
gear that keeps letting in the wet on the windy ridges. You want to take things
off and build it back on carefully. At a place like Aspen or Squaw you'd ride a
lift from the base up the mountain and go into the upper lodges to get things
organized. However at many mountains one is left to deal with everything out in
the open elements or bother to go all the way down to the base lodge which might
be quite inconvenient. Of course if possible we try and find a grove of heavy
trees to give us some protection but that is not always so convenient.

What I would like to see is very small shelters enough to protect say 4 skiers
side by side. The bottom of the shelters would simply be the snow pack so one
would not have to take your skis off. The entrance might be opposite the prevailing
storm wind direction with a bend to inhibit spin drift from getting in easily.
Inside might be one bench for binding adjustments, some complementary tissues,
a trail map on the wall, a mirror, simple stuff. This would not be a rest room
by the way as that complicates things greatly as again I am thinking small here.
As a bonus maybe if there was electricity there might be some kind of warm air
blower that you could run a couple minutes for a quarter or so. I would like to see
a few of these near the top of key lifts particularly the ones at ridgelines. What do the
rest of you forum members think and any additional ideas? -dave
post #2 of 11
Why not just deal with your gear at the bottom of mountain before you ride the lift. There is already enough stuff at the top of the mountain and we definetly do not need to be building eye sores along ridgelines. Plus the majority of big mountains where you need to take multiple lifts to the top already have some thing at mid mountain where you can deal with your gear.
post #3 of 11
dave,

i can pretty much guarantee you, also, that said shelters would in due time become, ahem, "smoking areas" for those who like to light up on the mountain.

"dude, to the gear room."
"fully."

soon as that became common, you'd get complaints, which would (probably) lead to staff being stationed there, which gets into the logistics of where to put staff, etc.

i know this might sound ridiculous, but...

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ October 30, 2001 08:16 AM: Message edited 1 time, by ryan ]</font>
post #4 of 11
Pretty spot on Ryan. At Big Sky there are "shelters" all over the place, you wouldn't believe the number. They are there for one reason and you already covered that use. The management tolerates them because it keeps the action off the lifts and away from mom and junior.
post #5 of 11
gotta love all those old gondy cars!
post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 
LG wrote:

"Why not just deal with your gear at the bottom of mountain before you ride the lift. There is already enough stuff at the top of the mountain and we definetly do not need to be building eye sores along ridgelines. Plus the majority of big mountains where you need to take multiple lifts to the top already have some thing at mid mountain where you can deal with your gear. "

LG the lift one rides might not be at the bottom of a mountain with a convenient base lodge right by the lift. As for eyesores I am talking about something really small. And there are a lot modest sized resorts with great storm skiing terrain that don't have any place to hide top to bottom of many worthy lifts. -dave


ryan wrote:

"i can pretty much guarantee you, also, that said shelters would in due time become, ahem, "smoking areas" for those who like to light up on the mountain.
...
soon as that became common, you'd get complaints, which would (probably) lead to staff being stationed there, which gets into the logistics of where to put staff, etc.'

RYAN, these little shelters would be near the top of the lifts say within sight of the top lift attendant. Now is some rasta boy going to light up when a patroller (or anyone else) could get off the lift and drop in within seconds and clip his pass or worse? A sign of clippage would get the idea across. -dave

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ October 30, 2001 11:42 PM: Message edited 2 times, by dave_SSS ]</font>
post #7 of 11
Now your slipping, Dave. I don't know of any patrollers here who want to get involved in enforcing morality type infractions. They are busy trying to keep the mountain up and running.
post #8 of 11
Thread Starter 
BSR,you are right about patrollers for the most part having no desire to enforce morality issues. Most of those guys are most cool. However none of the workers at resorts want to have other less tolerant customers complain about seeing such activity blantantly while some obvious resort workers particularly patrollers were quite aware of it. Doing such in front of kids particularly will get a strong reaction from many folks. For those workers it is preferred that customers do their thing out of sight out and discretely. That is why that kind of activity doesn't occur right at the top of the lift in the open. People are not such fools. -dave

<FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE="1">[ October 31, 2001 07:46 AM: Message edited 1 time, by dave_SSS ]</font>
post #9 of 11
BSR, or is it because the Big Sky 'trollers would be right there lighting up with the rest of us??
post #10 of 11
BTW, dave, when i ski, i pretty much never go to the lodge. especially when it is storming, couldn't justify going inside for anything if there is pow to ski. some jerky and cliff bars in my pocket for lunch, my camelback in my pack, along with a spare pair of goggles. Try to be self sufficient. I gear up at my truck, or at home if i am hitchhiking up, and the same on the way down. (ok, maybe if i need to go poop! but i carry tp just in case that happens in a bad place.)
post #11 of 11
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by dave_SSS:
ryan wrote:

"i can pretty much guarantee you, also, that said shelters would in due time become, ahem, "smoking areas" for those who like to light up on the mountain.
...
soon as that became common, you'd get complaints, which would (probably) lead to staff being stationed there, which gets into the logistics of where to put staff, etc.'

RYAN, these little shelters would be near the top of the lifts say within sight of the top lift attendant. Now is some rasta boy going to light up when a patroller (or anyone else) could get off the lift and drop in within seconds and clip his pass or worse? A sign of clippage would get the idea across. -dave
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dave...for a guy that skis at Kirkweed, I think you're pretty naive about where people will or won't light up. Even at family oriented Sugar Bowl, reefer is openly smpoked on the lifts. A patroller, for that matter anyone, can easily spot the "offenders", but it doesn't seem to be much of a deterrent.
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