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post #31 of 43
The key to Alta for me (as a non-local being completely unfamiliar with the mountain) was taking one afternoon all mountain clinic and one afternooon powder clinic. The instructor guided the 4 or 5 of us through the various traverse's and yes, we hiked a few steps, but it was well worth it. This helped open up some of the gems of Alta to me and helped to keep my heart beating evenly on the way to skiing Greely and Devils' Castle, etc. If I did not do this, I would have spent way too much time trying to figure out what to ski and how to get to it.
post #32 of 43
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Originally Posted by Lonnie View Post
Gunsite. Eddies high is just to the SE of gunsite. If you thought the hike in to gunsite was death defying, you should see the hike to eddies high (It used to have fixed ropes/chains)
Still does!

For chutes - besides those already discussed, there's Stonecrusher and Jitterbug on West Rustler, Rock Gully and others on Wildcat, and a bunch of chutes on Spiney Ridge, Piney Glade and White Squaw off the Supreme lift (careful tho, some are close-outs).

And it is completely true that you have to work to get to almost all the worthwhile stuff at Alta - that's why it's Alta.
post #33 of 43
yeah the other thing about having a guide/lesson is the ole "skiing behind the teacher" benefit someone else was mentioning - I always ski like a hero behind a better skier than me
post #34 of 43
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Originally Posted by Jer View Post
For chutes - besides those already discussed, there's Stonecrusher and Jitterbug on West Rustler, Rock Gully and others on Wildcat, and a bunch of chutes on Spiney Ridge, Piney Glade and White Squaw off the Supreme lift (careful tho, some are close-outs).
We forgot to mention the spiny chutes in Supreme bowl, but those are level 9 territory for sure.
post #35 of 43
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Originally Posted by Mr. Crab View Post
The complete Glory Hole involves a hike, straight up, through a gate about 150 yds below and skiers left of the Sugerloaf chair. You can avoid the gully by cutting right to a traverse just before the bottom around the big tree (this is an Alta "run") this follows along the gully and opens onto a nice area below the Sugerloaf chair. Do a search, there's a lot written about this stuff.
Sugaree...Another way in to the Glory Hole (non-hiking) is to ski off the Collins chair to the Greeley side of the mountain, without traversing out, look down to a flatish area where you'll see a single track leading out to a ridge with some trees. Ski straight down it and you should make it w/o hiking...entrance to the G-hole can be a little boney at times...but with the base being over 100" now, it shouldn't be a problem!

Two other chutes...Left and Right Ventricle, are over there also!
post #36 of 43
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Originally Posted by Michigander View Post
I certainly enjoyed my skiing there [Alta], I just don't see why its so highly opined, while Deer Valley and PCMR are considered inferior
Must be the DV valet service...you know, where they carry your skis from your car to the slopes for you...that doesn't appeal to the grizzled, duct-tape mottled, Alta Mafia!

...and, way too much grooming!
post #37 of 43
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Originally Posted by pcskier View Post
This is always the gripe, of all possible gripes, that I never quite get.

This is PCMR's current lift ticket rate:

Daily Lift Ticket 9:00am - 7:30pm $77.00



And, how much is Deer Valley's "ridiculous" ticket price?

That's right, exactly the same price. Actually, youth prices are two bucks cheaper at Deer Valley.

If you are a local, Deer Valley is considerably cheaper than PCMR. Now, I am not saying PCMR is not a great mountain with some good skiing to offer--it is. But of all of the things to lament about Deer Valley, the cost of a lift ticket is almost always mentioned, and is the least (at least empirically) valid.
The lift ticket is about the same as PC, but that goes until 7:30?? But by the time you eat lunch at DV, a lot more money is spent, whereas PC has much cheaper lunch.

But I'm not trying to be negative about these two resorts. I love them both. Actually, Deer Valley is my overall alltime favorite, so I'm not saying I don't like them, they are just expensive.
post #38 of 43
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Originally Posted by wasatchskier View Post
The lift ticket is about the same as PC, but that goes until 7:30?? But by the time you eat lunch at DV, a lot more money is spent, whereas PC has much cheaper lunch.
What's this "lunch" thing you speak of?

Everybody rags on Deer Valley (including me). Truth is, most people never venture off the groomers there.
post #39 of 43
I love DV - there are some nice off piste trails too and I try to hit them when there. Although it is seen as a "easy" day for us on a typical 4 day trip.
But the lodges/service are another reason too .
post #40 of 43
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Originally Posted by ct55 View Post
I love DV - there are some nice off piste trails too and I try to hit them when there. Although it is seen as a "easy" day for us on a typical 4 day trip.
But the lodges/service are another reason too .
It just amazes me how many out of towners think all DV has to offer is groomers. I challenge the next person going to Utah to ski DV, staying off the groomers, excpt to get to a lift or lodge,,, then come back here and report. Yes DV is groommer valley, but they offer so much unskied terrain. Ask a Mt. Host where some expert terrain is, even a liftie there knows where to get off the beatin path. Hook up with one of the locals from the forum, here.
If you dont want to ask any one, how will you know where to go for the off piste?
post #41 of 43
Yes, sometimes flying down the groomers at DV is fun, but they have plenty of good off-piste terrain too.

Daly Bowl/chutes offers some excellent terrain, also does Mayflower. Ontario Bowl was my favorite surprise, ended up there by accident and it was awesome. Great trees at the DV too.
post #42 of 43
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I loved Ontario Bowl at DV too. Although its more convex than a concave bowl. Don't know if there's a term for a convex terrain area - but they call it Ontario Bowl and the things I liked about it was that the little trek up to get there is a secluded little hike that's kind of neat. Then at the top, there's a ton of acreage to choose from with scattered trees and a few big rocks to miss. The snow stays pretty savory because fewer people really explore the area, and best of all, when you are at the top looking out you feel like you're on top of your own little mountain - its a cool area. The the skiing itself is great, pretty steep - not death defying, but a good pitch, and you can choose to either pick a line down or ski broad across the slope. It was a good part of Deer Valley. Again, I suggest Deer Valley was surprising better, from a terrain aspect, than I had expected.
post #43 of 43
OK OK so everyone's hammering Ontario bowl now ... icsnay on the Ontariobowlspeakay. Nothing to see here - all groomers, boring really, no good trails .

btw Empire has some pretty good stuff too generally. We skied with Stein by accident over there last year.
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