During the US's industrial development through the 1800's we and no one else knew anything about polution. Neither did Great Britain, where the industrial revolution started. We were babes in the woods. We didn't know any better, unfotunately. Asking developing countries to not make the same mistakes we made in industrial development is not an unreasonable request. "Oh but that's not fair!" OK. let these other countries develope as we did, making the smae mistakes as we did, because that fair! Then that adds to the polution problem! You can't have it both ways.
Response to the foreign cars commnet: Having been in the auto business for 27 years as anationally certified mechanic I have seen and followed the importing of foreign cars. Cars made overseas do not have to install so many polution devices. if they are to be exported to the US, they do. If you buy a car overseas to ship to the US, you have to have these polution devices installed the minute it rolls off the ship. I'm sorry but this is fact. (exception is if the car is considered a classic or antique) This was the demise of the VW bug. Its air cooled engine could not meet the increased polution restrictions. One time, Honda had shipped their little civc or town car. I can't remember what it was called. Does anyone remember it? It basically had a motorcycle engine! Hundreds of them rolled off the ship. Right from the parking lot at the docks they were all taken to the yard and crushed for scrape metal.
5% of the people make 25% of the polution. I love dmeaningless stats! This evades who does the other 75% This does not speak of what kind of polution. Propellants in spray cans have been changed in this country so as not to harm the ozone layer. I've read the chemical analysis and I am still not convinced this was affecting the ozone layer, but I felt it was probably safer to do this than to find out later it did have an effect. Other countries did not change propellants in their spray can products! But lets not discuss this. We want to blame the US for everything, right? air conditioning coolants R-12! This is no longer allowed in the US. You can still get it but to recharge your AC just the R-12 will cost you $60 to $80. This, hopefully, makes you change your AC compressor over to the new one which uses the newer coolant. Oh! you won't like this one... you can still get R-12 from Mexico... illegally! I wonder how many people complain about polution while they order the illegal R-12!
No. I am not for poluting our environment. We should do what we can to clean things up. I only ask for more common sense and less knee-jerk reactions. Rarely is anything as bad as predicitons or as good as predictions.
I recently heard some idiot state that there has never been in the history of this planet such mass extinction of species due to the appearance of man. What about the dinosaurs? Fact- 90+% of all species that live or ever lived on this planet are sitll here! Does this belie the fact that mankind in his stupidity has done his part in screwing up many species? Of course not. We are growing up. We are learning. Change is tough and more needs to be done. We are a part of this planet, not an additive factor outside of nature. Let's do our part but with common sense, not sweeping genaralizations like it's all the US's fault or most of it.
My younger daughter is right now living in a tree with others to prevent tree cutting in the Eagle creek area in Oregon here. I disagree with her methods, but I will get a message to her, invoking Voltaire in paraphrase: I disagree with what you are doing, but I defend to the death your right to do it. Gee... maybe fuddy-duddy old dad ain't so bad after all!
My cig butts go in the ash tray, not out the window, or in my pocket when skiing, on in my tackle box when fishing, not on the ground. I have seen some do otherwise while they scream about polution in the US. In the 60's it was sad to see hippies bury a car engine in protest against polution, then drive home in their oil-burning cars with blue smoke billowing out the tail pipe!
I think it is better to monitor oneself first. Also it would be wise to ask our government (gobment)
to go after companies which pay a polution permit rather than cleaning up their acts.
Yes the world is warming. This will cause large weather swings. We just now learning more about weather for the last 80 years or so. We are learning that weather goes in varied 'mood swings'. These lay within larger 'mood swings', and these in turn even larger 'mood swings'. i.e. ice ages and mini ice ages which no one can do anything about. Are we so arogant to think we are causing these mood swings? Let's do what we can to clean up our act, but let's not point the finger at the US when we have done more against polution than any other country in the world! Go to many countries and check it out. La Paz, Bolivia is one small example. How about Mexico? Ever look at their rivers?
All I ask for in balance and common sense. Start at home. If I can leave a fishing area without any evidence I had been there, why can't others? If any of you fish I am sure you have seen the same thing. Right? How many have removed polution devices in their vehicles, thinking it will run better (which it won't) but complain about global warming?
i.e. it all begins at home.
Life's a pain... then you nap. Cat philosphy