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post #31 of 62
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Originally Posted by Bonni View Post
Are you ready to die?
Old Klingon saying...."Today is a good day to die"

Read it...
Learn it...
Live it...
post #32 of 62
Dedreer, nice to have someone on board who knows of what they speak.
post #33 of 62
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Dedreer, nice to have someone on board who knows of what they speak.
Thanks Utah49!

I don't mean to sound like a nagging mother, but I spent the better part of 9 years skiing competively, 5 doing areials, moguls and Acro, and the last 4 specializing in aerials, and I know how much work goes into it.

Now that I am a coach in the sport, I have to train my athletes to do things properly and model the behavior myself. I really hate seeing people get hurt badly when it could easily be avoided.

I just recently started flipping again after close to 18 years. Granted I have done it on snow too many times to count back in 1982-89, and have spent every summer/fall at the gymnastics centre.

But when it came time to do it again on snow with all my athletes watching, I did what I always used to do, I rode the jump for about a half an hour, getting used to the lip and the physical movements required. Then I stood at the bottom of the jump and just looked at it, visualized myself hitting it over and over again.

Finally I wnet to the top of the hill and stood there for about 5 minutes going through my mental checklist, practiciing my pop (if you miss your pop there is a really good chance of landing on your head) and going through the motions again just like you see the aerialists on the world cup do.

then I let em ride and here is the result:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KqUn0GWKN0

When you're my age though, you can't work if you get hurt, which means you can't pay your mortage, and all the other BS that comes along with being an adult.

I loved it when I could crash hard and miss school and have my parents wait on me hand and foot...lol

Anyway, it is nice to be a part of the forum and chat about this stuff.
post #34 of 62
At night too. Congrats.
post #35 of 62
It is so much fun to watch the Aerials competitions at night under the lights at Deer Valley. I think they may be the first to do a night time competition.
A few years back I was talking to my Niece about getting into aerials. She is a great skier and
talented gymnast. She choose ski racing and has raced at the Collage level. Now she is getting ready to take her talents to Big Mountain Skiing. She is rehabbing now from a knee injury however once she is back on skis she will be working with coaches at the Winter Sports Park and legendary woman skier and coach Kristy Ulmer. OK this was a bit of Hi jack But you know an Uncle has got to brag some.
post #36 of 62
Thanks Phil

I'd rather jump at night than in flat light, easier to tell the sky from the ground and all that, unless there is a pine tree close by.
post #37 of 62
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It is so much fun to watch the Aerials competitions at night under the lights at Deer Valley.
Just watched that on tv this past weekend, holy shizznizz was it snowing hard or what! It is great to see events held at night with the floodlights, we used to train at night all the time in Red deer when i was competiing, strangely enough we do most of our training at night now too!

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OK this was a bit of Hi jack But you know an Uncle has got to brag some.
Indeed sir, nothing wrong with that at all.
post #38 of 62
you guys notice we haven't heard from this guy since he posted this ? well I guess he tried it....
post #39 of 62
I was thinking the same thing Xtremity!
post #40 of 62
I refuse to joke about it, in case you are right.
post #41 of 62
Lets see He hasn't posted. why?
1 he chickened out and won't come back to admit he chickened out.
2 He was successful and he is to Hungover from celebrating with his bros 3 he was a kid bragging Mom and dad took computer away because they discovered his porno.
4 He did not make the jump and he is in a coma
post #42 of 62
I agree fully that it is not a joking matter. Hopefully it is number 1, 2 or 3 that Utah49 mentioned.
post #43 of 62
1 On chickening out. He can only increase his stature among us by coming in and saying "You guys were right. Thanks for the good advice"
2 If he actually tried it and escaped in one piece, he could at least let everyone know how it went--including what, if any, advice he followed and precautions he took, what went right, what went wrong, etc. Again, he makes himself look good if he says "thanks" and tells us how the info he received helped or didn't help.
3 Um, yeah. Ok.
4 Anybody seen any news reports about unfortunate landings? If not, great.

Aside from the obvious Bad Outcome, another negative might be if he ignored all the advice given, threw the jump and was lucky enough to stick the landing, without really understanding how it all happened. He might get cocky and decide everyone was blowing smoke at him and try again, with less positive results.
post #44 of 62
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He might get cocky
Yea Morrison, that false sense of security will usually get you in the end. Seen it happen too many times.
post #45 of 62
BUMP

Still wondering if this dude made it or not.
post #46 of 62
I haven't heard any reports of death or injury, from any resorts. Me thinks this guy was just a young kid bragging.
post #47 of 62
He made a post on the pole strap thread on March 1st, so he's still with us. Whether he actually threw the jump only he knows.

A couple of weeks ago I stumbled across a video on YouTube of some kids doing exactly what I mentioned above, throwing back flips with no apparent practice or training. The flips and the landings were somewhere between scary and ugly. I think there were one or two belly flops. The kicker didn't look adequate and the landing seemed a little flat, but was covered with about a couple of feet of powder. No one appeared to be seriously hurt in the video, but it was more due to dumb luck than anything else.

Unfortunately, (or fortunately) I can't provide a link without a lot of drilling, but y'all don't want to see it anyway. It's that bad.
post #48 of 62
Well I'm happy to know he is still with us Morrison. Utah is probably right.

I have seena lot of really scary bad flip vids on youtube too, makes me cringe.
post #49 of 62
Thread Starter 
yea...it didnt go down. i never really got the opportunity because there wasnt really a hill or anything near where i was. i probably wouldve tried it though because i did jump out of a tree onto my head to see if the snow was deep/soft enough and i was fine...so i guess i'll have to wait until the next time i have access to three feet of powder out here on the east coast
post #50 of 62
Bein a jiber if it is a small jump you should probablly incorparate a barrle roll incase you get too lil air and hit yur head on the jump
post #51 of 62
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Originally Posted by ckb614 View Post
yea...it didnt go down. i never really got the opportunity because there wasnt really a hill or anything near where i was. i probably wouldve tried it though because i did jump out of a tree onto my head to see if the snow was deep/soft enough and i was fine...so i guess i'll have to wait until the next time i have access to three feet of powder out here on the east coast
I never would have thought of that. Good planning!
post #52 of 62
just do 4 things, lean back, take pics/vid, wear a helmet, and make sure the last thing you say before your first attempt is "hey dude, watch this!!"
post #53 of 62
What you need to do is to find a landing with the appropriate pitch, and a lot of powder, so that if you land on your head, you will be fine. Then, go out and do it.

However, the fact that you posted about it beforehand on the interenet, makes me think you are not so sure you can pull it off. In that case, go work on something else.
post #54 of 62
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i did jump out of a tree onto my head to see if the snow was deep/soft enough and i was fine
: There are easier ways to check snow depth. Probably a good thing you didn't go for it. I don't know where you live but I really think you should try to get to a water ramp this summer. Seriously
post #55 of 62
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Originally Posted by DedReer View Post
: There are easier ways to check snow depth. Probably a good thing you didn't go for it. I don't know where you live but I really think you should try to get to a water ramp this summer. Seriously
Is there a national listing of water ramps somewhere?
post #56 of 62
Not sure about the U.S. Ramp facilities, I know they have quite a few but where they are I can't say. We've got two here in Alberta, one in Red Deer and one in Grande Prairie.

I'll do some checking online.
post #57 of 62
Winter Sports Park In Park City. There may also be one in Lake Placid NY. The Winter Sports Park,is where the US freestyle team trains in the Summer. I'm sure they have camps in the Summer open for training anyone.
post #58 of 62
Yep, Lake Placid definitely. There's one at Steamboat, too. Keep hoping there's one closer, but Lake Placid's probably going to be it.
post #59 of 62
"Every man dies. Not every man truly lives."
post #60 of 62
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Originally Posted by kid4lyf View Post
"Every man dies. Not every man truly lives."
There's a difference between "living" and "taking pointless risks". It's possible to have quite a bit of fun without risking major injury.
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