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post #1 of 26
Thread Starter 
Is anybody on this forum an instructor - or use to be an instructor at mad river mountian which is in ohio.....
I am just 13 and i have taken many lessons and i am so into skiing right now ( thats all i ever think about )! And i think when i am older and really good at skiing ( which i think im good right now. my latest instructor said i was really good for the short time i have been skiing - i started last year )
I want to be an instructor or just anything to do with skiing because its so fun and i would like to teach people when im good and it would just be fun...
And i know it will take time but i just want an idea of what you have to go through...
I know this seems really specific but is there anyone here that has been to mad river mountain and worked there as an instructor and knows what you have to go through...
I know this sounds well, stupid but i just want a general idea of what it takes to be an instructor.. ?
Chris
post #2 of 26
Moving your thread to where the instructors live.
post #3 of 26
Thread Starter 
opps, i thought i was in the instructors forum......
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post #4 of 26
I've never been to Mad River in Ohio, but I've skied with some of their instructors in the past at PSIA events, so I know the ski area uses PSIA members.

Just so you know, you must be 16 to join PSIA and attend any of its training programs.

If Mad River is where you usually ski, your best bet is to contact the ski school director to see what opportunities exist. They might have work for younger folks willing to help their instructors in the children's lesson program. There may be an issue with your state's rules regarding jobs for teens. In Michigan, where I live, youngsters can only work a few hours a day and only a couple days a week and only if their school approves.
post #5 of 26
Chris,

You might find some helpful information in this old thread. Many resorts hire junior instructors as volunteers. These are typically unpaid positions where you help a regular instructor teach. In exchange you get a free pass, free instruction and you get a head start for learning how to teach when you are old enough to do it on your own. Contact the ski school director at Mad River and talk with him or her.
post #6 of 26
There is also the junior ski patrol.
post #7 of 26
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Kneale Brownson View Post
I've never been to Mad River in Ohio, but I've skied with some of their instructors in the past at PSIA events, so I know the ski area uses PSIA members.

Just so you know, you must be 16 to join PSIA and attend any of its training programs.

If Mad River is where you usually ski, your best bet is to contact the ski school director to see what opportunities exist. They might have work for younger folks willing to help their instructors in the children's lesson program. There may be an issue with your state's rules regarding jobs for teens. In Michigan, where I live, youngsters can only work a few hours a day and only a couple days a week and only if their school approves.
So the members have to be approved by PSIA? And are these training programs at the resort or a different place? How much does it cost? I always ski with the same instructor and sometimes i have different ones.. maybe i can ask him about instructing so when im older i can maybe do that thing about the volunteers as therusty said. but i really want to keep skiing and i just started last year and im perty good
and i hope to do something with skiing when im older..
post #8 of 26
Thread Starter 
and also the resort i go to mad river mountain ( www.skimadriver.com ) is part of peak resort .. if that helps..
post #9 of 26
Skier,

You can become an instructor without joining PSIA. PSIA is for after you become an instructor and want to become a better instructor than what you can get from just the training at your home resort. Talk to the ski school director at Mad River to find out what the costs are for getting started as an instructor. Each resort does it differently. Usually, after you've gone through the initial training, additional training done by the senior instructors at your resort is free.
post #10 of 26
As mentioned by most every responder, skier101, the ski school director at Mad River is going to have the best answer as to when and what you could do with and for the ski school. Contact that person when you go there next time. Mention the instructor you've been skiing with as a reference for your abilities, but that usually isn't a concern when ski schools are recruiting helpers. They'll want to train you to be helpful to their way of doing things. Also, be aware that you aren't going to be an instructor for a while. It'll take some training in how to conduct lessons regardless of how well you ski.
post #11 of 26
Thread Starter 
yeah, it will be a while... well first of all im not even old enough to drive. That seems easier, becoming an instructor through the resort instead of some other place that you would have to go through. so i would probably wait a while to talk to the ski school director.
Thanks everyone for you help, i understand it better now.. Well it will be a couple of years before i would have the chance to do that. I think i will continue to have lessons next year also because it is fun and the easiest way to learn.
THANKS,
Chris
post #12 of 26
Skier, I became an instructor at Boston Mills at the age of 16 and didn't drive at the time and lied about my age. I got busted serving a beer to an underage friend (keep in mind the drinking age during the Viet Nam war was 18) and was fired, so I went to Brandywine and got a job from Steve Dorner (RIP). I went on to teach a few more years, got level I and went to college in Utah. I realize I was another body on the hill, but had a great time and learned a lot from the clinics. While I'm sure you are not nearly as derelict as I was, your journey rings a bell. If you are serious about pursuing this, you couldn't find better mentors than what is available on this forum. Good luck, and thanks for bringing back some memories.
post #13 of 26
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
Skier, I became an instructor at Boston Mills at the age of 16 and didn't drive at the time and lied about my age. I got busted serving a beer to an underage friend (keep in mind the drinking age during the Viet Nam war was 18) and was fired, so I went to Brandywine and got a job from Steve Dorner (RIP). I went on to teach a few more years, got level I and went to college in Utah. I realize I was another body on the hill, but had a great time and learned a lot from the clinics. While I'm sure you are not nearly as derelict as I was, your journey rings a bell. If you are serious about pursuing this, you couldn't find better mentors than what is available on this forum. Good luck, and thanks for bringing back some memories.
How long did it take you to become an instructor once you started getting trained ( or what ever you want to call it ) to be an instructor?
post #14 of 26

Try this Skier101

Hello,

I to live in Ohio but teach at Snow Trails. I'm a bit older than you and at your age was not as into skiing as you are. Check what age you can start teaching at Mad River, at Snow Trails you can start at 16.

My advice goes like this:
  • At your young age i would get a job or help out at a local ski shop. ( I like Aspen Ski and Board) Work there as much as possible to learn the 'harware' side of skiing. This will be so invaluable.
  • Keep taking lessons and take it very serious.
  • Become the most well rounded skier you can, from slow wedge to fast bumps to grinding the rails.
  • Read at least one book a summer on skiing (for free at the library)
  • Take a course in high school on public speaking to get used to talking in public.
  • Send me money for this advice.
  • Take good care of your equipment and show repsect to other's equipment.
  • Encourage your friends to learn to ski and take lessons.
If you do want to join PSIA you would join the Central division (http://www.psia-c.org/) and I called them, you can join at age 15.

Oh well thats about it.

Bottom line is use the next 3-5 years to learn as much as you can about skiing and teaching skiing and stay happy!
post #15 of 26
Skier, I'm not sure what the areas are doing these days. Obviously you have to take my story from over 30 years ago in the context of that era. Most ski areas have pre-season hiring fairs. You should contact the ski school director before the end of the season to find out how they select and hire new instructors. The most important quality is the desire and ability to teach and to demonstrate beginning skiing moves. The new hires are often given several weeks of clinics to learn teaching exercises and to drill at the essential skills. Some drop out due to conflicting obligations or lack of interest, most will be offered PT jobs with the ski school and are usually given classes right from the beginning of the season. You will probably teach mainly lower level group lessons. The big advantage to being with the ski school is the continuing education...clinics and skill development on the hill which is essentially like getting free ski lessons. As time goes on, your skills will be greatly improved.
post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by skier101 View Post
yeah, it will be a while... well first of all im not even old enough to drive. That seems easier, becoming an instructor through the resort instead of some other place that you would have to go through. so i would probably wait a while to talk to the ski school director.
Thanks everyone for you help, i understand it better now.. Well it will be a couple of years before i would have the chance to do that. I think i will continue to have lessons next year also because it is fun and the easiest way to learn.
THANKS,
Chris
Perfect attitude.
Learn as much as you can within the next couple of years... take it seriously but don't forget to have fun...
I am in the same situation as you, actually, aged 13, turning 14 in April this year, so I'm not really someone to be talking about this...haha. I'm based in Canada, and taking CSIA rather than PSIA.

But seriously though, learning as much as you can on any aspect of skiing will be good for your future as a ski instructor. I help some guys out at a local ski shop... its a great experience. It teaches you how to care for your own skis and hands-on experience.

Also, my ski coach not only teaches me the technical aspects of skiing, but also talks to me about what its like to be a ski instructor and what steps to take...

So it may be a good idea to talk to your instructor about when he started skiing and what he did to become a ski instructor.

I had a look around the PSIA website and quoted from it....

Quote:
If you are not currently an instructor, then you may want to contact some local snowsport schools and see if they have instructor training. You will need to have had some training or teaching time before you can begin the process of becoming a certified instructor through PSIA/AASI Central. However, we do have some clinics that are tailored to the beginning instructor that can give you a start in the right direction. In the long run, you will want to be affiliated with a snowsports school.
Being a ski instructor is a good job... qualifying for the PSIA will also allow to teach all over the world... allowing you to travel all over the place. Most instructors I've spoken to teach skiing in the Northern Hemisphere during our winter months, and then go down under (Australia, New Zealand) during our summer, (their winter).
post #17 of 26
I guess I forgot something... I can't edit my post so...


Perfect technique doesn't mean you are perfect. Try and learn about the safety aspects of skiing/snowboarding... it is probably the most important part of off-piste skiing. Risk judgement is important, whether or not your are a perfect skier. I have seen various people older than I am try and bomb it down a hill and crash, injuring themselves in a preventable situation. Just because there is fresh snow on a bowl doesn't mean it is safe to ski on... weather may have weakened the snow, causing an avalanche risk. You don't want to become a ski instructor, have lack of proper judgement and guide people into danger areas, risking your life and theirs... Good judgement and knowing what to do in situations is important

So, I guess 2 main areas are:
* Technique
* Safety


Good Luck
post #18 of 26
Thread Starter 
my resort doesnt have a bowl.. nor powder.. Its mad river mountain ohio.
And one of my instructors told me that she feels that i want to be an instructor, she read my mind. :
I know a lot of the instructors and are friends with them and well another instructor went up the lift with me one day and he said that he heard the rumor that i want to be one... he said you have to be 17.. and im hooked, i dont think i can get out of skiing!

But i got a way to go and ill probably ask later in one of my lessons about instructing in more detail.
but i dont think i will get out of skiing..
DJDaveX, well they will teach you rules and safety...
Chris
post #19 of 26
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Perfect attitude.
am in the same situation as you, actually, aged 13, turning 14 in April this year, so I'm not really someone to be talking about this....
With more maturity and verbal skill than many of us. I'll be honoured to to see you become an instructor. good luck!

Newf
post #20 of 26
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With more maturity and verbal skill than many of us. I'll be honoured to to see you become an instructor. good luck!

Newf

Lol, thanks. I guess its a result of hanging out with some older guys... experienced skiers too... haha.

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Originally Posted by skier101
But i got a way to go
Haha, time flies, don't worry about it (although it seems I'm been stuck at 13 for a bit too long).
I occupy myself by occasionaly taking my sisters and her friends up on the slopes for a couple hours on weekends... just to get a taste of what looking after kids is really like.
post #21 of 26
Thread Starter 
Well my resort will probably close down in a week or so... its been in the 50's. And well most of the ski instructors know me, and they know that i want to be a ski instructor. And the supervisor ( he is in charge .. and i think he instructs sometimes) even knows that i want to be a ski instructor. He said you have to be 17... and there is another instructor that told me that there is a junior thing where younger than 17 can teach little kids but they dont get to ski much... so idk about that . i want to teach on the hill.
But im getting another season pass for next year and lessons.
post #22 of 26
Chris it looks like you have found a home here at Epic Ski. They still say we will be open this weekend. Hope to see you there.
post #23 of 26
Thread Starter 
sorry Tom but, i wont be there . I have already taken my skis back ( i sent you a pm back about it ). But it was a lot of fun skiing with you and i learned a lot.
Well you will probably see me next year. I have another thing to work on.. edging - the last lesson i took , with you. So theres another thing. I dont think there is anybody who skis perfect.. always working on something, even if they have skied 20 years - from what i have heard people saying.
well maybe someday ill will wear one of those peak resort jackets. And im hoping to see you next year. ill be working on trying to get those edges and moguls.
And i think im going to snowshoe next year.
I has a blast! see you next year! and have fun flying.

Chris
post #24 of 26
Hey, Tom, missed you guys at the Canadian Week thing at Boyne again this year. When you going to fire up that airliner and visit us?
post #25 of 26
Kneale:

Believe me I have thought about it. I even looked on Boyne's web site to see when it was.

I have to much to do trying to keep the excavating business going. I hope to at least come up next year for an event.

I haven't been flying for several months but hope to get back to it soon now that Mad River has closed.
post #26 of 26
One of these years you'll figure out that skiing is far more fun that running that business, Tom
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