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post #31 of 41

Reno lost its soul years ago.

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And the #11 college basketball team in the nation.
True that. Soon to be higher. Go pack (I'm UNR '91).

Look, my family has been in the Truckee Meadows (aka the Reno area for the uninitiated) since 1904. My grandfather sold some of his downtown land to Bill Harrah in the 40's and ran the properties for him for a number of years through Reno's heyday. Harrah's and the Nevada Club now sit on my family's old land, and we still own huge swatches in North Reno - sold some of it to Wal-Mart a number of years ago (wish we hadn't). My mom was the Washoe deputy district attorney (under Mills Lane!) and a deputy state AG in Carson, all after becoming the first female pit boss in the entire state (at the long-gone Prima Donna). She also sat on the gaming control board for a number of years. My uncle played football at UNR in the late 60's (Chris Ault was his QB) and I was in the Wolfpack Marching Band! And every one of us skied! Our ties there are long and deep (unlike the pow most of this year).

I think I've gone off about this before, but if it was at all possible for a town to regress while at the same time experiencing massive growth, Reno is it. It used to be very hip - lots of locally-owned establishments, progressive politics (on both sides of the aisle), clean air and a real sophistication for a town of under 100k.

Now, with the exception of maybe Miami, I'd say Reno is the least sophisticated city in the country. I left in the early 90's but still have a house there and much family. I'm back at least every month, and I can honestky say the city has done a complete 180 since I left. Every possible chain has moved in, strip malls are the norm, and the general refinement of the city is long gone, I fear never to return. There is also an odd, almost bumptiousness that has taken hold with the nouveau riche, particularly with those vulgarians in those ridiculous McMansions down in the Galena area. Yech. That, to me, symbolizes where Reno has gone - absolutely no soul.

Boise - got a soul. Portland - got soul. Reno - nope.

OK, sorry for that! But regarding the night skiing - I used to work at Boreal and would often go night skiing there. Is there much else besides that these days? Seemed like more of a kids thing to do.
post #32 of 41
I'm not sure what the Boring Hill reference was? Donner Pass?
Cuz there's nothing else at Donner Pass.: Sugar Bowl's way crappier than Heavenly.:
Cold Stream canyon's no good: Donner Lake run over the train tunnels offa Judah's really lame. And North Lake has way less soul than South Lake (do I really need to put another one of these: things). I will say that the super sick backcountry is down there.

But your grandstanding about strip malls and chains, and your family sold land to Wal-Mart? Sounds wicked soulful.
post #33 of 41
Not grandstanding at all - just observing. I have the benefit of having seen it both ways. I wish it weren't the case because I'd move back full-time in a minute. When the hottest new thing is a four-hour wait for dinner at the new BJ's Brewery, you know the town is in some serious need.

And I guess you missed the part where I said I wished we hadn't sold the land to them. Wasn't my decision, sad to say. I have more say now. But whatever - didn't mean to hijack this thread.
post #34 of 41
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Originally Posted by splitter View Post
I'm not sure what the Boring Hill reference was? Donner Pass?
Cuz there's nothing else at Donner Pass.: Sugar Bowl's way crappier than Heavenly.:
Cold Stream canyon's no good: Donner Lake run over the train tunnels offa Judah's really lame. And North Lake has way less soul than South Lake (do I really need to put another one of these: things). I will say that the super sick backcountry is down there.

But your grandstanding about strip malls and chains, and your family sold land to Wal-Mart? Sounds wicked soulful.

"Boring Hill" is a reference to Boreal ski area. It's on the other side of Donner's ski ranch, further up hwy 80.
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post #36 of 41
Put the night skiing at the lowest priority. There is a reason that many big mountains do not offer night skiing and all midwest or eastern hills do. Skiing the mountains on the weekends, breaks and days off is plenty makes what is available for night skiing pale in comparison.
post #37 of 41
Thanks MemoSteve. I know Boring hill is boring hill, I just wasn't sure why
anybody mentioned it, other than I was talking about all the things up at Donner Pass, which is 30 minutes from Reno.
post #38 of 41
And Coop, I understand that you feel oh so terrible about selling land to Wal Mart. But that makes it incredibly hypocritical to say anything about it. You're still saying that is part of what sucks, and you are apparently a decent piece of that problem. You say that you wish your family hadn't done it, or you had nothing to do with it. And you still bash a town you haven't lived in for years. I bet you don't bash your family and call them provincial and back a**wards. I'm just pointing out you value soul. And this here admission raises a red flag of soulessness. I'm cool with people dissin' on Reno, I work at a ski shop in Truckee, all I hear is people dissin' on Reno. I'm just not sure if you are allowed to, since it's your fault.
post #39 of 41
I would concur with Idahojef that Boise must be considered. 20 miles up the road to the mountain, good night skiing, and good day skiing. Price is right for a season pass...$200...if purchased early. I also like the nonprofit concept. There may be better skiing elsewhere but wrap Bogus into a package and you can't beat it.
post #40 of 41
I'm with ya on Reno going downhill...

I finished college @ UNR (2002 alum) and remember the city fondly except for the lack of educated diversity. There was a tiny group of dedicated outdoor enthusiasts (like myself), and that was fun but any town worth its salt wouldn't allow a cafe like Deux Gros Nez to go out of business. Another thing: I worked at Mt. Rose, and love that little hill; but why don't they still have night skiing??? I love night skiing because it allows people who have a real job to get time in outside of weekends (ugh, hate weekend crowds). Rose had night skiing according to the older locals but it shut down due to lack of interest. I do not understand this.

That said, I'm tempted to move back. I love the climate, the closeness to the Sierras & the Bay (have family there) and the affordable cost of living compared to many places with an airport. I also feel like since the internet has become much bigger and more diverse I would have an easier time making friendships on a second trip there.

I would consider SLC or Boise, but SLC creeps me the f*** out with the mo-mo thing. I respect their religion, but heavy-duty religion being virtually in charge of a whole state is very weird. As for living up in PC, I would rather cut my nuts off with a cutting torch...I dislike folks who are overprivileged (and yet don't support local business or give to the community) almost as much as I dislike getting a bacterial infection.

Seattle is a great city, but the metro govt. has screwed up priorities. Prop. taxes within the city are totally egregious and driving around the city in the rush hours is literally hell due to the geographical boundaries (read: water).

I can't comment on PDX, Boise or Vancouver other than they seem like nice cities with educated folks. You may want to consider Denver (at least the west side). It's 70 miles from Keystone and I-70 is a pretty quick drive once you leave the city. However, Keystone is only open until 8pm or something ridiculous like that (what's the point????) and if you like to ski fast (30-40mph) down their runs their ski patrol are complete nazi retards who will yell at you even if nobody is around.
post #41 of 41
Any opinions on Vancouver's other city mountains? In my mind Grousse always seemed to be the least interesting of the three, but I haven't skied any of them, so I could be totally off. I will be moving out of the bridge next summer, and Vancouver has always appealed to me. It would be great to be "close" to whistler and baker, with the city hills available for evenings/afternoons.
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