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post #61 of 71
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Originally Posted by vwthng View Post
Very, very good lookin boots. However ive heard from numerous ppl that some of the other Krypton boots start to get hard on your shins after using them for a couple days of skiing.
This is exactly my problem with Flexons (it didn't take a couple days), and why I don't ski the pair I have. It was the case with the stock liners, and was the case with Thermo Inners (Thermoflex knockoffs).

I continue to ski my Raichle F-ONEs with joy and thanksgiving.
post #62 of 71
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Originally Posted by Flemming View Post
How do the Il Moro compare to the Rampage?

The Rampage fits me well but I would like the ID liner of the Il Moro. Given that I only ski for about one week a year and that I only have about 3 weeks of skiing experience (rating myself at level 6-7) which of the Dalbello Kryprons would be best for me (I think I would prefer the comfort of the ID liner):

*) Rampages (I have tried these and they fit well out of the box).
*) Il Moro
*) Cross
*) Pro

I mainly ski on-piste. Am 34 years, 6.25 feet tall (192 m) and weigh 88kg (190 pounds)


Regards
Flemming
I think you would be happy with the either the IL Moro or the Cross as your first choices, but don't be afraid of the Pro if you can find a deal on them, you can set it up as a "Cross" in flex pattern but get the better Gold liner.

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Originally Posted by volantaddict View Post
This is exactly my problem with Flexons (it didn't take a couple days), and why I don't ski the pair I have. It was the case with the stock liners, and was the case with Thermo Inners (Thermoflex knockoffs).

I continue to ski my Raichle F-ONEs with joy and thanksgiving.
Thats why there is Vanilla and Chocolate.
post #63 of 71
Thank you Phil

Can you tell me if the Il moro is softer, stiffer or about the same as the Rampage? I see the Cross is a bit stiffer. I ask because my bootfitter estimates that given my experience I will be too upright in a stiff boot which will hinder my learning progress.

How is the molding process for the ID liner?
Is it heated by a heatblower or in the owen llike intuition liners? (Just wondering if the shop can handle the ID liner since they only carry the Rampages but can get the Cross of Il moro if I desire)


Regards
Flemming
post #64 of 71
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Originally Posted by Flemming View Post
Thank you Phil

(1) Can you tell me if the Il moro is softer, stiffer or about the same as the Rampage? I see the Cross is a bit stiffer. I ask because my bootfitter estimates that given my experience I will be too upright in a stiff boot which will hinder my learning progress.

(2) How is the molding process for the ID liner?
Is it heated by a heatblower or in the owen llike intuition liners? (Just wondering if the shop can handle the ID liner since they only carry the Rampages but can get the Cross of Il moro if I desire)


Regards
Flemming
1. Splitting hairs on the stiffness, I would suggest whatever you can get the ID liner in.

2. NO, these are not heated like a traditional Intuition/Thermoflex liner. These need to be heated from the inside out. Do NOT let them think they can be heated in an oven. There are glued pieces on the outside of the liner that will come off from an oven heater. If they do not have the heater, ask them to set time for their rep to come with a heater to do the molding.
post #65 of 71
I can see on the Dalbello website http://www.dalbello.it/technologies/id-thermo.html that it looks like a blower of sorts.

Does it have to be Dalbello specific or will any heat blower device made for heating ski boot liners be usable?

I really would like to buy the Cross or Il moro locally (for better support afterwards) but I am affraid the do no have the right equipments and that it will be next season before they get visited by the Dalbello rep.

Best regards
Flemming
post #66 of 71
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Originally Posted by Flemming View Post
I can see on the Dalbello website http://www.dalbello.it/technologies/id-thermo.html that it looks like a blower of sorts.

Does it have to be Dalbello specific or will any heat blower device made for heating ski boot liners be usable?

I really would like to buy the Cross or Il moro locally (for better support afterwards) but I am affraid the do no have the right equipments and that it will be next season before they get visited by the Dalbello rep.

Best regards
Flemming
If the shop carries Dalbello, they should be able to get their hands on a heater. Why they wound't carry the ID's does create a big question.
post #67 of 71
So is the Il Moro stiffer or softer than the Rampages/Cross. I ask because there exist varying reports on the net.

I just want to make an educated purchase and this being my first boot (allways rented until now) so sorry for all my questions.

Would the Il moro be to much of a boot considering I have only skied for 3 weeks (doing red slopes fine) or am I better off with the Cross or Pro (set to its oftest setting)?

Regards
Flemming
post #68 of 71
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Originally Posted by Flemming View Post
So is the Il Moro stiffer or softer than the Rampages/Cross. I ask because there exist varying reports on the net.

I just want to make an educated purchase and this being my first boot (allways rented until now) so sorry for all my questions.

Would the Il moro be to much of a boot considering I have only skied for 3 weeks (doing red slopes fine) or am I better off with the Cross or Pro?

Regards
Flemming
There are no official flex ratings for the Il Moro. Any of the three will be good for you.
post #69 of 71
Thank you Phil

Do you know if the Cuff fit the same as the Rampage, i.e., if the Rampage fits my calfes will the Moro do as well (is the cuff the same curcumference)?

And are the Moro, Cross or Pro equal comfortable to wear and ski?

And finally are the lateral stiffness of these boots equal? (My ankels are not very strong laterally - once had a set of inliner skates that flexed a lot laterally and they where hell for me)

Thx
Flemming
post #70 of 71
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post



Thats why there is Vanilla and Chocolate.
True. I wasn't complaining, but rather feeling vindicated in my experience because they are so highly touted, and it was good to hear that others had the same experience. I wasn't bagging on Flexons, the way they flex is very interesting, and I think I'd come to love them if they didn't hurt.
post #71 of 71
Today I went to a shop about 1½ hour drive away. They had more Dalbellos in stock.

I tried:

a) Dabello Cross Trufit Comp liner (non ID liner as they did not have that model in stock). $675 (Denmark sucks on ski gear prices ).
The fit felt better than the Rampage

b) Il Moro (silver ID liner) - $725
The fit was also good out of the box. They much tighter than the Cross with the Trufit liner. Like having your foot in a vacum bag. I suppose that is good. However, they didnt feel so nice on by leg/calf.

They also had last years Krypton Pro with non ID liner but not in my size.

They can order both the Cross and Pro with ID liners if I want. With ID liners the Cross, Pro and Il Moro also cost about $725-$740 price for the Il

I now consider the Cross or Pro with the ID liner since the Il moro did not agree with my calfs. I know the Pro with the softer tongue can be setup similar to a Cross. However, the gold ID liner is stiffer than the silver and even more thight fitting - right?

Is thight fitting boots something that is good for someone like me who ski 1 week each year? Will I be happy after 6 hours of skiing?


Regards
Flemming
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