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post #1 of 24
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Okay, so I did something really idiotic yesterday ... after deciding to duck the rope in the liftline to get to the next lane, I discovered that the rope was lower than I expected. I went ahead and squatted all the way onto the back of my skis, rode under, felt a little painful pop -- I stood back up, didn't fall or anything, rode the lift, skied a run or two and didn't think too much of it.

At lunch, I realized the knee was hurting. I poked around a little, and found a very tender spot at the bottom of my kneecap. It was swelling a bit, but not much. I grabbed some ice and put it on for a while, and did some probing and bending. It didn't hurt most of the time, but in certain positions (bent) with weight applied, it was fairly painful.

I skied to the bottom and decided to quit, mainly because I didn't trust it. I went back and iced immediately, took ibuprofen, etc.

Basically, there is a very painful point right at the base of the kneecap on the front while doing things like descending stairs or flexing the knee. It doesn't hurt while straight, or after it's bent as long as it isn't bearing weight. (ie, it hurts to bend it, but once it's bent, it doesn't hurt)

My self-diagnosis is that I somehow stressed the patellar tendon right there -- obviously I will go to the doctor if it doesn't get better in the next few days, but I'd like to avoid the embarrassment if it's something that will get better with RICE.

Anyone have any similar experiences, or can think of another thing I might have injured, or any other advice at all? (...Yes, I know, don't squat like that, don't forget that you aren't 12 years old, etc.)
post #2 of 24
you felt a pop? get thee to a doctor who should investigate it (or a decent physio). Ligaments go pop (you know this!).
post #3 of 24
Um, I hate to utter the potential affliction that comes to mind (a three letter acronym : ), it tends to coincide with a popping sensation and is oft caused by just such maneuvers, but definitely get it looked at ASAP. BTW I hope I'm way wrong.
post #4 of 24
Segbrown, Say it ain't so! Not another bear/diva down? Get it checked! The sooner the better, so the injury can be diagnosed correctly and heal the best way possible.
post #5 of 24
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Anyone have any similar experiences, or can think of another thing I might have injured, or any other advice at all? (...Yes, I know, don't squat like that, don't forget that you aren't 12 years old, etc.)
Yup.

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=52048

All better now!!! (or at least I think I am...)
post #6 of 24
Sounds like a slight Patellar Tendon tear... or possibly an ACL. My guess is Patellar Tendon based on what causes the pain. Either way, a pop is a pop, nd you should just go to a doctor (or, preferably, an orthopedic surgeon).
post #7 of 24
Disclaimer: I'm not a doctor, just a college kid that's had some classes dealing with similar. I could be way out of the ballpark, and you should take my diagnosis with the biggest grain of salt you can imagine.
post #8 of 24
Hoping for the best, segbrown. When in doubt, diagnose!
post #9 of 24
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Originally Posted by hydrogen_wv View Post
Sounds like a slight Patellar Tendon tear... or possibly an ACL. My guess is Patellar Tendon based on what causes the pain. Either way, a pop is a pop, nd you should just go to a doctor (or, preferably, an orthopedic surgeon).
I kind of agree with you -- I don't think it's ACL, because it is absolutely on the front of my knee, and I think I'd feel more injured/less stable than I do.

I should probably reclassify the "pop." It was more like a rip or a shred (see, ski terminology ), like when you start to pop a seam in your pants or something, but it doesn't totally tear out. Just a quick few stitches.

I rolled my ankle a few years ago, and I felt a definite pop followed immediately by a crunch. Turns out I did sprain a ligament (the pop) and break a bone (the crunch). It's pretty wild how you can feel those distinct sensations in the midst of chaos.

Well, I hope I have Lonnie's experience, and feel better by the weekend. If not, I'll swallow my pride and go see my doctor.

(I've done worse: as a young teenager, I broke my finger while basically, uh, picking a wedgie. I might have told this story here before ... we had to wear men's soccer shorts back then, and they always came with those little built-in undies. Normally we'd cut them out, but this was a brand new pair and I didn't have time. So while I was running around the field, they crept up, and I had to pull them down. Well, I somehow managed to get my finger twisted in the elastic while yanking and running at the same time, and broke my index finger. Now THAT was an embarrassing doctor visit.)
post #10 of 24
Rope ducking 101
Always lead with an arm to pick up rope and roll it over your back. Never ever squat under one. Sorry about your luck and hoping for the best.
post #11 of 24
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Rope ducking 101
Always lead with an arm to pick up rope and roll it over your back. Never ever squat under one. Sorry about your luck and hoping for the best.
Even better, reach your pole out way ahead and used that to lift the rope as you duck under.
post #12 of 24
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(I've done worse: as a young teenager, I broke my finger while basically, uh, picking a wedgie. I might have told this story here before ... we had to wear men's soccer shorts back then, and they always came with those little built-in undies. Normally we'd cut them out, but this was a brand new pair and I didn't have time. So while I was running around the field, they crept up, and I had to pull them down. Well, I somehow managed to get my finger twisted in the elastic while yanking and running at the same time, and broke my index finger. Now THAT was an embarrassing doctor visit.)
I award this visual a full 5 of 5
post #13 of 24
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Even better, reach your pole out way ahead and used that to lift the rope as you duck under.
Negative! IF you miss said target then Carnage can and will occur. Did you skip Rope Ducking 101.
post #14 of 24
A few years ago I was skiing with AE at Heavenly. We were ripping some fast runs and returning to the Sky Express chair at a fast clip, I planned to ski into the live lines (no people, just roped aisles). Just before entering the line I saw a blue and white rope closing off the lane. : I threw myself back on the tails of the skis, and stood up after passing under.

I used to do such maneuvers with impunity, but I ended up with a bit of an abdominal tear this time. Getting old sure sucks. Anyway, not so related to your incident other than I was also ducking a rope by laying back.
post #15 of 24
Segbrown -

Now, take your medicine, do what the doctor says, obey your physicla therapist, do your exercises . . and get help with that line cutting technique:-)
post #16 of 24
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Rope ducking 101
Always lead with an arm to pick up rope and roll it over your back. Never ever squat under one. Sorry about your luck and hoping for the best.
I know, I know!! That's why this thread has the title that it does.

The rope was quite low; there was no way I could duck under it even when holding it up. Squatting ... yikes. I don't squat. Ever. I don't bend my knees more than 90 degrees. Ever. I know not to do that. I am so mad at myself ....
post #17 of 24

I agree.

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I award this visual a full 5 of 5
Better watch that thumb, though.
post #18 of 24
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
A few years ago I was skiing with AE at Heavenly. We were ripping some fast runs and returning to the Sky Express chair at a fast clip, I planned to ski into the live lines (no people, just roped aisles). Just before entering the line I saw a blue and white rope closing off the lane. : I threw myself back on the tails of the skis, and stood up after passing under.

I used to do such maneuvers with impunity, but I ended up with a bit of an abdominal tear this time. Getting old sure sucks. Anyway, not so related to your incident other than I was also ducking a rope by laying back.
Thanks, you make me feel a little better. Misery loves company.
post #19 of 24
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Better watch that thumb, though.
LOL!! Keep it out of your stretch pants ...
post #20 of 24
SB,

My "pain" was kind of a low grade burn (I could actually feel warmth) for a few days, in almost the exact location you are describing. Day 2 was the worst.

L
post #21 of 24
Yo Seg,
I've had my share of rope,snow fences and assorted other moving and stationary encounters. Every seen a cat with a ball of twine?:-0 Hope your back on the boards this season.
post #22 of 24
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Negative! IF you miss said target then Carnage can and will occur. Did you skip Rope Ducking 101.
I did skip 101 -- but how can you miss swatting a rope up out of the way with a 4+ foot pole?
post #23 of 24
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I did skip 101 -- but how can you miss swatting a rope up out of the way with a 4+ foot pole?
Trust me on this one grasshopper. You just keep using your pole and get back to me after awhile.
post #24 of 24
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Update ... well, I still don't know what I did, but I can ski on it.

I rested and iced for about 4 days, and it was no better. Then one day, after I'd resigned myself to being done for the season, it was noticeably improved. A day or two later, I played some low-key doubles tennis, increased the intensity on the tennis court every couple of days or so, and was able to play an hour of singles at about 90% (on clay, though) by last Tuesday, 2 weeks after I hurt it.

Then I skied three days in a row ... there was some off-and-on pain and swelling, but today it feels almost 100%. It didn't affect my skiing at all, whatsoever.

I still probably need to see the doctor, because something isn't quite right ... but I'm waiting a few weeks.
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