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post #1 of 13
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I just spent a number of days skiing out in Utah with my daughter she's 23 and has been skiing since she was 2. One day while riding the chair at Powder Mtn. we watched a ski lesson below and she commented that it must be hard to learn to ski as an adult. As a long time instructor I just said it depended on many factors but she went on to say she can't remember learning to ski. For her it would be like someone teaching a person to walk. As far as she remembers she's always known how to ski and can't remember learning how just as she can't remember learning how to walk. I just found her perspective interesting and after teaching people how to ski for over 20 years I've never thought of it that way or heard that before. After thinking about it I think in some ways I'm lucky I learned later in life I can still remember my first time on skis and how frustrated I was and I feel this perspective helps me relate with my students. At the same time I can't help but think how cool it would be to think of skiing as innate to your being as walking.
post #2 of 13
I agree, interesting thought.
But it in fact has nothing to do with skiing itself. It applies to anything you learn as a very young child. Learn to speak French from your nanny when you are 2 years old. It comes natural en when your 23 years old, you'll be speaking both languages equally well, without knowing why.

Maybe we should use this phase of life more, to give children the upportunity to learn the easy and natural way, instead of learning the same things less well with a lot of effort when they are older.
But we can't teach them everything, we have to pick....

skiing would be a great choise, ofcourse
post #3 of 13
Little kids are still dealing with issues like how to walk, how to run. So skiing is just another movement to deal with. That said, kids who have already dealt with walking and running learn faster, IMO. Kids about 8 or older.

I had 3 sisters today, tweens, complete beginners, and they were mixing wedge with parallel and doing some slipping in their turns on our "big" mountain by the afternoon.

And some adults learn even faster than this. It's about the mix of body control and fear control, so much as I can fathom.
post #4 of 13
I learned to ski from age 4 and only remember good stuff other than being cold. The other thing that I have is no memory of being afraid of the steeps and do not experience fear inbounds to this day.

Not having fear or frustration in skiing does not mean that I have no conception of what others feel. There are plenty of other things that I have tried to do where I did experience fear as an adult. White water kayaking would be one of those activities and I never got over fear on the river.
post #5 of 13
I learned at 36 (I'm 54 now) and I do feel that this gives me some advantage in teaching adult beginners. Hard to categorize what theat advantage is, but I know my gf started at 3 and she has very little understanding of the need to understand the technical aspects of skiing. She's a doer I guess, and I'm a thinker - so this could go as much to learning styles as to when we learned.
post #6 of 13
Teaching skiing is about creating a learning enviornment for whatever age is envolved. To maximize the learning process, it is neccessary to use simple tasks that become the teacher and also force the student to learn outside their predominate learning type. This is effective teaching for all ages and levels.

post #7 of 13
Originally Posted by ant View Post

That said, kids who have already dealt with walking and running learn faster, IMO. Kids about 8 or older.
It depends on the kid. Some kids can just do it, others aren't ready. It's important to not push a kid who is not ready.
post #8 of 13
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Maybe when we learn and how we learn something is part of how we develop our learning styles. In the case of my daughter she's a do'er when ever she encounters new conditions or situations while skiing I just need to give a few points and then she needs to try, no questions. Now the other day I was giving a race clinic to some kids that had never been exposed to racing before. One little girl maybe 9 years old gets in the start and looks down, keep in mind we have a very steep start, she then back out and says I'm not going to do that I'm not that kind of a person. I couldn't help but think that's pretty neat a 9 year old that knows who she is. I know adults that aren't that in touch with themselves. I can be included in that camp at times.
post #9 of 13
Ski Mango Jazz' teaching reports are very good and interesting. My hat is off to you for your work.
post #10 of 13
[quote=Dutchman;658439]Learn to speak French from your nanny when you are 2 years old. It comes natural en when your 23 years old, you'll be speaking both languages equally well, without knowing why.

a news report discussed a school that was teaching from babies up, multiple languages. One girl said she spoke five and was still learning.
post #11 of 13
I learned skiing 2 years back, when I was 24 and I dont remember the process of learning to ski.. I took 2 lessons, that much I remeber but beyond that it was just gettting out there and skiing as fast as I could and trying new stuff.. You gradually figure out what works and what doesnt.. I still continue to learn and improve (at least I think I do) every day..
post #12 of 13
Many times learning later in life is driven more by "unlearning" or losing preconceptions. Get to kids when the world is still "new" and that hurdle is taken out of the way.
post #13 of 13
I started when I was two. I think that two big advantages of being on skis young are that you develop balance and that you are comfortable on skis.
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