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HELP! Differences between Fischer RX9 and AMC 76

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
I have narrowed down to these two, but have not yet demo'd the RX 9's.

Can someone who has skied both please tell me how they differ from each other?

I am 5"10, 215, like the 170 length, ski mostly midwest and east, high end intermediate, intermediate speeds +. Have not been west but might some day. Ski mostly groomed but occasionally like to get into the woods (probably 95%/5%)

I would really appreciate feedback ASAP as I want to get one of them this week in time for a trip.

Thanks,

PJS
post #2 of 11
Hi PJ,

I assume you are skiing in New England. The RX9 is the higher performing of the two models, and is oriented towards harder snow & higher speeds than the AMC 76.

The AMC 76 offers ease of use and might be more forgiving, especially at lower speeds and on softer snow.

The RX8 might be better than either, Its more forgiving than the RX9 while being capable of high performance.

Hope that helped,

Michael
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 
Michael;

Thanks. Most of my skiing is in Ohio, NY, Pennsylvania with trips planned to upper New England.

I am on Rossignol T Power Cobra X skis now and feel I have outgrown them. They were great when I got them five years ago but have progressed past them. I am also considering seriously the Salomon X Wing Tornado.

Your input is sincerely appreciated. Any experience with the Salomon's X Wing Tornado?

Pat
post #4 of 11
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Michael;

Thanks. Most of my skiing is in Ohio, NY, Pennsylvania with trips planned to upper New England.

I am on Rossignol T Power Cobra X skis now and feel I have outgrown them. They were great when I got them five years ago but have progressed past them. I am also considering seriously the Salomon X Wing Tornado.

Your input is sincerely appreciated. Any experience with the Salomon's X Wing Tornado?

Pat
Hi Pat,

I also had the Cobra X, mine were 181cm. I'm also 220 lbs (or more) I can't comment on the X wing, but I do think you would like the RX 9 or 8.

Get a 175cm.

Michael
post #5 of 11
Thread Starter 
I am also considering (as I demo'd them at the same time as the Fischer's), the Salomon X Wing Tornado and loved them about the same as the AMC's. How would you guys compare the X WIng Tornado's vs. the AMC 76?

Thanks so much for your help - I truly appreciate others input.

Pat
post #6 of 11
The AMC 76, IMO, would be a more versatile ski. Better in bumps, better in the woods and sufficient on the groomers. A true All-Mountain ski.

The RX9 is stiffer and will be a better groomer ski, IMO.
post #7 of 11
Have to agree with Sugaree. I got a pair AMC 76 (170) a couple of weeks ago for the harder conditions out west. I did not want a skinny carving ski and chose the 76 over the Nitrous mainly because of a great deal.

Me: 46, 5-11, 175, level 8. My normal everyday ski is the Dynastar 8000, powder ski is the B4 (2006)

I was very happy with the choice. AMC 76 is quicker than my 8000 on the hardpack (bigger sidecut). It is very easy to ski and you can choose three positions on the bindings. I like the forward position for harder snow. In the bumps I was pleasantly surprised by their quickness and large sweetspot. The larger sidecut does get a bit hooky as I found myself having to lift my tails through a bit more. I do like my 8000 in the bumps more. Have not had a chance to take 'em out in the soft stuff or the steeps yet. We haven't had enough snow out west until this last week. I'm going up in a few days to try them on the steeps and in the crud.

They are easy to carve. I would say they are forgiving but will reward you for good input.

As a one ski quiver, the AMC 76 is a great choice because it is quick, carves good, good in the bumps and is fat enough to venture out and not sink like an anchor.

The RX-9 would be an all-out hardpack ski for skiing fast and might be too much ski for your description.
post #8 of 11
If you are mostly skiing hardpack in the midwest and east, I would go with the 9. It is rockin stable at speed and lays down super solid arcs on pack. Good in the bumps too. If you think you are going to hit some soft stuff, the 76 is a great ski too.

The 8 is a turner, so if you want to make quick short turns top to bottom you might consider the 8. In my opinion, the 8 takes a lot of energy to ski. It wants to make short fast turns and tends to be less stable in big turns at speed. The 9 turns almost as quick, but lets you take a break and arc it out.
post #9 of 11
I've owned the 76, skied the 9 once, and just demoed the Tornado (reviewed the 76 last year and the T this week here).

I live in NE. For where you ski, the 9 would be more fun, but is not terribly forgiving. The 76 is also a lovely ski, but not as strong in the crud or ice, and also not super forgiving. Agree with B that you also might think about the RX8, in 175. Amazing all around groomer, easiest of the 3 to learn on, best prices because you can buy a new one from last year.

But FWIW, I think the Tornado would be a better ski for you than those. It's quicker than the 76, has a similar light feel but a bit damper, not as stiff so you can enjoy lower speeds, and more forgiving, so you can perfect your carves. Almost as good as the 76 on ice, 3/4 as good as 8 or 9; far better than any of the three in soft crud and bumps. Therefore the most versatile. It skis short, so for someone your size, I'd recommend at least 177.
post #10 of 11
I enjoyed the RX9 and found it to be reasonably versitile over a range of conditions. The ski prefers long radius high speed turns and will hold a tenacious arc. It also tolerates having the tails skidded which makes it suitable off-piste. I have not skied the AMC.

Jed Peters at Sugar Bowl pushing the RX9 turn radius on the groomed (Jed is physically similar to your description). He wanted more rebound in the ski, but found it held a solid arc.



Tyrone Shoelaces shows the RX9 can be driven in an off-piste stash. He liked this ski and ranked it second to a Nordica Afterburner. Tyrone is more accustomed to off-piste skiing and considerably wider, longer skis.



post #11 of 11
Thread Starter 
I am still solidly considering the X Wing Tornado, as something in it just seemed like it was really easy to ski.

I think I need to go out and re-demo the AMC 76, and the RX 9 along with the Tornado. Everyone's input here has been sincerely appreciated and valued.

FWIW, I read where Fischer and Salomon have ended their long relationship with each other and Salomon intends to out-source some or all of their production. I know very well about outsourcing in various industries. It can be either a bad or good thing. Without knowing all of the terms and who they will source to, my experiences have tended to be more negative that positive relative to outsourcing. I am NOT saying they are all of sudden going to start building crappy products, but this is a major change for any business and it would hard for me to think that merely outsourcing is going to improve production quality. Bottom line, yes. TQA (total quality assurance, a business phrase used loosely to refer to "quality" in general), no.

Thanks,

PJS
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