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cheapest in Europe

post #1 of 11
Thread Starter 
if you are in Europe and you're looking for good and cheap place for skiing try Bansko-Bulgaria. It is still the cheapest and the best. For example: accomodation for a weekin a family hotel is about 90EUR per week incl. breakfast. ski pass is about 100EUR for 6 days for 13 new lifts and a Gondola. 40km new runs and offpists oportunities. check:www.banskotravel.com.
post #2 of 11
Say something more Vlado . Which part of season is best ( no lines , best weather and best snow conditions ). What about hotels , how to get there and so on .
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 
the season in Bansko starts at December 1st and lasts to May 6th. the best time is after January 10th up to the end of March. usual snow conditions for this period is 2.5-3 meters snow. in mid February there is a Big Mountain Comp. for more info check IFSA site a: www.freeskiers.org.
The site www.banskotravel.com is an online travel agency, so you can ask all questions there and make booking.
post #4 of 11
I don't want to sound like a naysayer, but Bulgaria is not a very good choice for the North American skier.


1. It's expensive and time consuming to get to.
2. The infrastructure at Bulgarian resorts does not compare to what a North American skier will find at a major destination resort in the Alps.
3. Snow conditions are not as good as the Alps.

I've never skied Bulgaria but have done summer surveys of resorts in Slovakia, the Czech Republic, and Poland. I also lurk on Slovak language ski forums. When you have Slovaks telling other Slovaks to spend the extra money and go to Austria, something must be wrong. As we all know, you can get twice as much skiing accomplished at a resort with high-speed detachables and high-speed gondolas than one with old POMAS and slow chairs.

Bulgaria might be a good choice for an adventuresome Swede or Brit who can catch a cheap domestic flight to Bulgaria for a long weekend, but for Americans and Canadians, I don't think it is a good idea unless you are more interested in experiencing a unique culture than skiing.

One of the big costs of skiing in Europe for North Americans is the air ticket and car rental costs. Everyhing else is not terribly expensive by our standards. That's why I always tell poeple who are first time visitors to European resorts to go to a flagship, snowsure resort first:

Courchevel 1850 (intermediate skiers)
The Arlberg (Lech for intermediates/St. Anton for advanced skiers)
St. Moritz (intermediate skiers)
Val D'Isere (advanced skiers)

You can always save some bucks by booking at a two star, but if you are traveling to Europe primarily to ski, don't pick a 2d tier resort. Go for the first tier--a snowsure place with new lifts where you can easily bag 40K of vertical a day. To put it in another way, North Americans looking to ski in Europe should be looking for good value, not cheap skiing. A 1 star at St. Moritz or St. Anton will offer much better value for the money than Bulgaria, especially when you factor in air and ground transportation costs, travel time, snow conditions, food quality, etc. Telling a North American to travel to Europe to ski Bulgaria is the equivalent of telling a European to travel to the US to ski West Virginia. Sure, West Virginia occasionally has decent snow but in now way shape or form does it compare to Aspen in terms of snow, extent of terrain, and lifts. To make such a comparison would be BEYOND absurd.

Don't get me wrong. I love Eastern Europe and have travelled extensively to Slovakia, Czech Republic, Poland, Hungary, and Romania but these places are better bets for hiking and mountain biking than skiing right now. Things will change quickly, but for now, ski elsewhere.

For more on the Eastern European ski scene, I suggest the following article:

Places You May Never Ski: Slovakia

[ November 09, 2003, 09:36 AM: Message edited by: West Virginia Skier ]
post #5 of 11
Bulgaria Cheap? yes...worth crossing the pond for? No.
Would be like us guys heading for a week or two at Grouse and Cypress in Vancouver. Esoteric!

I have yet to meet one person who has been to Bulgaria to ski (even from the UK) who would make a point of returning there for the same reason.

If you really want to keep the cost down then head for Chamoniox and stay at the Chalet Ski Station, or Chamouniard hostels. To keep costs down further buy the 'after 1pm passes' at the Grand Montets (you can still ski till last lifts at 4:45ish)and take some rest days between skiing. Fantastic skiing, low cost accom, get to know a proper French town, easy access to other great areas -Verbier, Aosta Valley, Avoriaz, Morzine ski area..etc.etc.
post #6 of 11
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all you've said is reasonable but here is the difference. yes Bulgaria is far from US but if you are in this part of the wold why not. the reason why i write about Bansko is because everything is new. That means new Gondola from Dopelmayer made by international construction team and 2 new and fast 4 chair lifts by Dopelmeyer which brings you for 4 minutes to the top.The average is 4800 - 7800f asl and many offpists options as well as pro guides and hely riding. have this in mind and try it if you are around and you wil be pleasently surprised.
post #7 of 11

I concur. If you are in the region, definitely go. My only point is that North Americans should not head out to Eastern Europe in the hope of saving money and experiencing a ski experience equivalent to the Alps. From the sound of it, Bansko-Bulgaria is more advanced than most resorts in the region but the extent of its terrain still does not compare to Trois Vallees or the Arlberg, nor does the snow quality. Still, Bankso would trump any Mid-Atlantic ski resort in all major categories. It would also give many resorts in VT and NH a run for their money, especially with all those upgrades. [img]smile.gif[/img]

The best hope for Eastern Europe's ski industry are locals. The more prosperous thelocals get, the more the ski industry there will thrive. Prosperous Hungarians from Budapest are the big market for Slovakia and I suspect a big market for Bulgaria are wealthy Greeks.

We on the other side of the pond should try and ski at Eastern European resorts if we get a chance, but realistically, most North Americans will never make tracks in Eastern Europe, let alone the Alps for that matter.

If, on the other, the US or NATO builds a base in Bulgaria, then we could see many Americans on those slopes. Bansko should work closely with the morale, welfare, and recreation officer of any new base to organize ski trips for service people. That's a great way to expose North Americans to the greatness of skiing in Bulgaria. After all, that's how Americans discovered skiing in Europe--throught the 10th Mountain Division's experiences on the slopes of Garmisch-Partenkirchen. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Anyway, best of luck to you and Bansko and shoot us some reports on your local scene as the season progresses.
post #8 of 11
Yes , and in all Alps there is not RAKIJA ! [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
post #9 of 11
Ummm. Just read my post from yesterday. In hindsight it reads a bit more harshly than intended -both for Bulgaria and Grouse/Cypress.

Valdo makes a good point in that if you're passing by then give it a try. I've visted Grouse and Grouse Grind on a late spring evening is one of the most pleasant ways of keeping fit I can think of. If I were touring and had time in Bulgaria then I'd at least give it a shot.

The point I was trying to re-enforce was that if skiing is your passion and budget is an issue then there are safer bets than Bulgaria. Especially if you are travelling thousands of miles.

Valdo. Sounds like paradise compared to some of the local tows that spring up in the English Peak District on the rare occasions that it snows! ....Having said that I do know of a nice 300ft line at about 50 deg that makes for a real esoteric run on the increasingly rare occasions it comes into condition. should anyone fancy steep skiing in England.

[ November 10, 2003, 01:39 PM: Message edited by: freshtracks ]
post #10 of 11
Thread Starter 
thanks for your thoughts. i have all this in mind. I know there are much better places in Europe but for now Bansko will be best for my because i am a rezident. so if you plan to visit you should write me at info@banskotravel.com and we can get in touch. i personaly haven't been to US yet but whenever i come i will go to explore the slopes for sure. about the NATO bases and the ski industry you've got the right point but better with out them.


Lobo, nazdrave i mnogo pozdravi ot Bansko...
post #11 of 11

Please take pictures when you go to Bansko and post them on epic. [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]smile.gif[/img]

BTW, does Bansko mean "mine" in Bulgarian? In Slovak, Banska means mine. It's interesting that Eastern Europe has built ski slopes near old mining towns and mineral extraction areas. In that sense, it is similar to West Virginia and Colorado. Turning mines into snow fields is a good thing thing. Maybe Bulgaria, like Colorado, can make some money mining white gold (snow). [img]smile.gif[/img]

Also, I agree with you about NATO. After years of having Russian soldiers based in these areas, the last thing these countries need is more foreign troops. However, if they do come, you should organize trips to Bansko for the troops. Many will not know how to ski, but your instructors will teach them and get a whole new generation of Americans hooked on the sport. These people will return in 10 years to ski the slopes they learned how to ski on and bring their families. It's a good way to build a viable tourist industry. I often run into ex American military in Alps. They come to relive their glory days....

Happy tracks...
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