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What do you think of this NEW Rear Entry Boots

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One piece ski suits to follow
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I think anyone in the market for a relatively soft boot with comfort as a priority over performance is going to love these. BTW, that is a huge sector of the market, but not what many on this site are looking for. They sell for $359 and are currently on sale for $259 at REI which puts them in the sweet spot of pricing for less than expert skier. And it doesn't look like a rear entry.

Deja Vu

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Looks a bit more like a hybrid design than a classic rear entry. The bottom looks conventional; the top looks kinda like a cuff off a standard four-buckle but split in two front to back so it has two hinge points instead of one.
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What ever happened to the Rossi soft boot? For a while, they were supposed to be the second coming.
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What ever happened to the Rossi soft boot? For a while, they were supposed to be the second coming.
Too soft, not enough performance, but warmer than normal alpine boots. Patrollers and ski instructors who had to be on the hill all day liked these, but they weren't as comfy as AT boots with the DIN soles, so they were pretty much a jack of all trade master of none kinda product (wich doesn't attract much customers or praise). Guys who didn't care about performance but needed something functional and easy to wear stayed with the AT, the others just went right back to alpine and wore warmer socks...
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I'm definetly gona try this boot. I want something stiffer then Scarpa Tornados and Garmint Endorfine. And for patroling, I could sacrifie rubber soles, but not the walk-mode.
Very interesting!
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You know what I don't understand, why comfort and performance have to be mutually exclusive. At the extreme, yeah, if you have a 100% pure race plug boot but 99.9% of skiings don't need that level of performance.

I'm in Dobie 110s; they perform quite well and they are 100% comfortable. I can ski, clinic, and teach in them all day. I think maybe some people just are too unmotivated to pull the sides of a conventional boot open getting them on and off but that's twice a day for five seconds so who cares, get a friend to help if it's tough.
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Not really a RE boot but more a mid entry...Those failed too.
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Originally Posted by BillyRay View Post
Too soft, not enough performance, but warmer than normal alpine boots. Patrollers and ski instructors who had to be on the hill all day liked these, but they weren't as comfy as AT boots with the DIN soles, so they were pretty much a jack of all trade master of none kinda product (wich doesn't attract much customers or praise). Guys who didn't care about performance but needed something functional and easy to wear stayed with the AT, the others just went right back to alpine and wore warmer socks...
I have been curious about the rossie soft boots to use when skiing with my wife and young daughter. Does anybody know wha the flex rating/index was for these boots? I currently use Nordica Beast 10's, and came up from Nordica trend 7.1's. Thank you
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Does anybody know wha the flex rating/index was for these boots?
I think the flex rating of the soft is like 14 or so
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I just posted a thread on this recently, these will most likely be my new boots next year. I loved rear-entries, and this looks perfect.
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And what do the prof bootfitters think? Bud, any opinion?
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most med to low end overlap boots are very easy to get into (pull handles on the tounges, soft material over the instep, long buckles) If getting into a boot is that much of an issue and hard, you are too poor of shape to ski, or in the wrong boot.

It died once, and will die again. Nordica last year had some true rear entry boots back in the cataloge.
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What a concept,a comfortable decent performing ski boot. I had a pair of the Salomon 91 X( the red ones) rear entry boots and what I can remmeber about it was it felt like it didn't have a real heel pocket. I felt like I was standing on something where the heel pocket would be. Anybody else sense this too. I don't know, I think with boots great warmth and comfort are exclusive to a certain degree with response and performance. You kind of have to pick one ." One" being higher performance or super comfortable.
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So if you loosen the cuff buckles you lose stiffness at the back of the boot?
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So if you loosen the cuff buckles you lose stiffness at the back of the boot?
The back cuff will not release unless you completely pull back the top buckle which has a cable mechanism that then allows total opening of upper cuff.. If you just un-hook the cuff buckles this will not , in itself, allow it to fully open.

Oh, roundturns...the heel pocket in this boot is tops for a person with a narrow heel. Biggest complaint from Mrs was that there are few boots that really hold down her heel. These do a great job.
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The more I read about these boots, the more I want them. Can't wait to try them on!
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Hmm. Similar to the old Salomon Integrals - full liner and heel pocket. Was actually a pretty responsive boot for the time. (Still have mine somewhere - probably in the same box with my explosions). I wore the intergrals for teaching and the explosions for free-ski.

What I do like about this type of boot design is the bio-curvature of the fit at the front of the lower leg/ankle for people with a thin lower leg (me). What I didn't like was all flex in the boot came from shell deflection because there was no ankle hinge to the boot. The GranSport looks like it may have addressed the hinge issue.
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Originally Posted by roundturns View Post
I had a pair of the Salomon 91 X( the red ones) rear entry boots and what I can remmeber about it was it felt like it didn't have a real heel pocket. I felt like I was standing on something where the heel pocket would be. Anybody else sense this too.
I skied them for years. I felt like I had to tighten the ankle/heel cable to a ridiculous point to feel like I was locked down -- so much so that I'd cut circulation to my toes. Finally gave up.
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I skied them for years. I felt like I had to tighten the ankle/heel cable to a ridiculous point to feel like I was locked down -- so much so that I'd cut circulation to my toes. Finally gave up.
This is so funny.
The reason my husband has kept his rear entry boots is because (in his words), "I can tighten the adjustments through out the day to a point that I almost lose circulation."
He thinks the rear entry boots with the adjustments is a good thing, while I think he just needs a boot that fits.
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what happened to the boot Dominique Perret is supposed to have been working on, is that it?
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Nordica already had a similar boot in the mid '90... I think the model/line was Syntech. The look/construction was very similar.
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