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What length All Mountain ski?

post #1 of 14
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I'm looking at the Fischer AMC 76 or the Volkl AC3 to compliment my Fischer RC4 WC SC 170's. Something that will bust through crud and float through powder better. I'm 6'0 180lbs. Should I look at a 170 or something longer?
post #2 of 14
I would think wider. Consider an AC4, AMC79, Dynastar Legend 8000 or Head Monster 82.

The WC SC will cover all of your hardsnow needs. These ski will perform well on softer snow & crud while still skiing the groomed slopes easily.

Michael
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the reply. I'll check out those skiis too. I'm just nervous about going THAT wide. What about length? Stay at 170 or should I go longer?
post #4 of 14
I am exactly your size. I ski in the Sierra which is noted for heavy snow. I dislike twitchy skis even if they turn faster. I have Dynastar Legend 8000s in 178. They float nicely and are rock-stable in Sierra crud. I had demo'd the 172s. They turn quicker but are less stable. You have to pick your poison.
post #5 of 14
You should try some 170's. And something longer. And something wider. And something narrower. In other words, demo. Yeah, you'll have to shell out some cash but it's cheaper than buying a ski and then figuring out it kicks your butt or you can overpower it or you just don't like it.
post #6 of 14
I was in the same boat. Three years ago I switched from 200cm pencils to a Stockli Laser SC 158 (OK I'm 5' 3" and 135lbs. and ski MRG pretty much exclusively.) I was a holdout and had to force myself to go short; fat skis looked absurd so I didn't even consider that option. I was 50 and after a week decided I had discovered the fountain of youth.

I ski mostly off trail and have been thinking about fat skis for a while. I am going to Alta for the first time next week and purchased some Legend 8800s 168 for $90 from Evo rather than rent or demo. Tried them out the past weekend, deep snow (for the east) crud and trees. I was skeptical, but what a surprise! I just keep getting younger and younger. Perhaps I really am Merlin?

Ice and hardpack were no problem either. I don't understand it, but I'm sold, fat skis don't seem so ridiculous to me anymore. I would go longer than 170, though, for your size and weight.
post #7 of 14
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Originally Posted by JTripodi View Post

200cm pencils to a Stockli Laser SC 158 (OK I'm 5' 3" and 135lbs. and ski MRG pretty much exclusively.)

Tried them out the past weekend, deep snow (for the east) crud and trees. I was skeptical, but what a surprise! I just keep getting younger and younger. Perhaps I really am Merlin?

Ice and hardpack were no problem either. I don't understand it, but I'm sold, fat skis don't seem so ridiculous to me anymore. I would go longer than 170, though, for your size and weight.
158 good for you. The mid fats have made me feel younger too.

I would like to throw out the Nordica Top Fuel in a 170. I'm 5'10" and 205. That ski is an animal in crud, the east coast version of powder. I ski them in bumps and love 'em (for an all mountain). This is a powerful ski that gives back when you ask. As with any high end ski, you need to be over the ski.
post #8 of 14
Hi,

I am 5'8" and about 175.
I am skiing the Atomic Metron B-% in the 172 cm. Seems to everything well as an all mountain ski should.
They make short and long turns very well. I have not skied off piste or deep powder yet, but am sure I will enjoy the extra length in the deep.
Portillo August 2007.
post #9 of 14
While the AMC-76 isn't a fat ski it's certainly offer variety compared to the RC4. The 76 is a ski you can ski every day and enjoy while still giving a little help on those days you're looking for something wider. I'd suggest you demo the 170 and the next size up if possible.
post #10 of 14
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Thanks for the reply. I'll check out those skiis too. I'm just nervous about going THAT wide. What about length? Stay at 170 or should I go longer?

I'm 5'10" 140 lbs. I ski RX8's in a 165 and AMC 79's in a 170.
I skied the AMC's at Whiteface, NY on a day that had pockets of 12" powder but lots of boiler plate ice. I thought they did so well that I wouldn't hesitate to travel with just them anywhere.
post #11 of 14

Don't be afraid of the midfat !

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Originally Posted by fishEH View Post
Thanks for the reply. I'll check out those skiis too. I'm just nervous about going THAT wide. What about length? Stay at 170 or should I go longer?
I was used to skiing a 200 cm pencil, (and the narrow waisted K2 Mod X) so I was skeptical of the claims that the AC4 users make about making short fast slalom turns and holding on ice. I can tell you that it's true ! When I looked at the beefy 82mm AC4 I had my doubts, but it's very close to the feel of a narrower ski. You do need to angulate ( roll the ski up on one edge ) a tad more than a slalom ski , but not by much. It's much faster edge to edge than you would expect, and it has great edge hold.
As outstanding as it is on hardpack, it's even better on soft snow !

I'm roughly the same size as you, and when I bought the AC4 I went with a 170, but I'm an east coast skier and I wanted the quikness and tighter turning radius of the shorter ski. If you're west coast, I wouldn't be afraid of the 177. It will give you that extra float and crud busting omph, but at the expense of some of the quikness. Try to demo both sizes if you can.

I'm not saying don't consider the AC3, Just don't be afraid of trying the Midfat. You may be very pleasantly surprised.

Good luck,
WW
post #12 of 14
I'm 5'10", 170 lbs and have the AC4 in 177. It is as WW says, if you ski in the East, the 170 is probably good; but out West, the 177, IMHO, is the way to go- esp if you are looking for a crud/powder ski.

Also, the Karma/Mantra/Rossi B3/etc will give you even more soft snow ability. Being out West, I use the AC4 as my hard snow ski.
post #13 of 14
177 for all the reasons mentioned previously.
post #14 of 14
Try before you buy! Not only try different models, also try different lengths in the same ski. Many 175cm or longer skis (add 8cm for twin tips) are very beefy.

Michael
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