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Rossignol Radical R11 Multix

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Make: Rossignol
Model: Radical R11 Multix
Binding: Axial2 Ti
Length: 165cm
Radius: 11m/15m
Conditions: Ice, Granular, Packed Powder
My height/weight: 5' 7"; 160lbs
Ability: Racer/Level 9
Boots: Nordica Dobermann WC 150

Comments:

I wasn't going to review this ski; but after skiing it last Friday and thinking about it for a week I couldn't not review it here. The reason for this being is that this was possibly the WORST ski that I have skied on since the inception of shaped skis. I skied this with the short arms... and part of it's uselessness could have been the tune, but the ski is just awful.

1) There is no rebound - really - NONE at all. I equated this to skiing on a dead fish.

2) Edgehold is non-existant. This could have been the tune (so I will give it that), but it was pretty bad. This surprised me because when I skied the VS last season it was really not that bad (for a retail ski).

3) This ski holds onto a turn forever, and does not release unless you force it to. This commonly required a strong up and over move, which is not the most efficient turn releasing method that can be used. When it does release it has no energy at all.

4) The ski does not feel like the tip is even on the snow, so you can't really even buy a turn initiation from it. At speed the tip flops around like a flag in the wind, and with a little extra pressure at that point you can fold the ski up right in front of the binding to the point where it just... stops.

Final Conclusion:
Don't buy these - please. Rossignol did not hit a home run with this ski - or even a base hit. Maybe a tune would help them... or maybe using them as kindling would be better (probably not even a wood core - so not worth it). I really do not know why someone would choose to ski on these though. I am not hating on Rossignol, because I have really liked their skis in the past and have been very comfortable on their race skis - so I KNOW they can do better. Sadly they missed the boat with these skis.

Later

GREG
post #2 of 19
Hmmm, don't mince words...how do you really feel about them?

I myself have never been a Rossi fan. OK skis, no personality. This is jsut another gimmic ski..I personally never took it seriously and wouldn't waste my time even to demo it. You are more generous than me.
post #3 of 19
I say it in all the threads regarding this ski;

you can buy it at convenience stores in Japan.

7/11 = coffee and the rossi multix.
post #4 of 19
Funny thing about this review, is that I demoed several Rossi's a few weeks ago felt very uninspired by all of them. A few of them were dead enough that I couldn't wait to get off them. Me, eager to get off a ski, imagine that!!!!
post #5 of 19
Very different from the opinions of one of my co-workers. He is PSIA 3, a very advanced and versatile skier. He has recently acquired a set of the Rossignol Radical R11 Mutix. He has skied many different skies and he fell in love with these. He said that there are many other skis that have tried something similar, but these are like having 2 different sets of skis. He said that by changing the Arms, you can definitely feel a difference.
Since he is a Rossi rep, he got these for cheap (free?), but said that he would gladly pay retail for them if he had to. He said that Ski + binding retail would be around $1200.

Everyone has their opinion, but I figured i'd throw this out here since he has had nothing but great things to say about these skis.
post #6 of 19
I never skied this ski. I admit I am intrigued by it. I think I heard that you can't ski the ski without the arm attachments. If that's true it sure doesn't sound like it has much beef! The fact it had no zing is pretty discouraging. The fact that it had a crappy tune also would compromise performance. I just don't get the logic behind demo skis and too typically lousy tunes. First impressions are lasting, it would take a tremendous leap of faith for someone to overlook the bad tune and buy the ski on the basis the tune was compromising its performance. Anyway, Tomba looked like he was ripping on it in the video! I'll scratch it off my wish list. Thank you.
post #7 of 19
what video did you see Tomba ripping it? I wanna see tomba. BTW- he can rip anything. Remember the Tomba invitational- like ten years after he retired, he held an invitational slalom event. Invited all the top FIS racers and their new skis. He won. ha ha ha.
post #8 of 19
"Since he is a Rossi rep, he got these for cheap (free?), but said that he would gladly pay retail for them if he had to. He said that Ski + binding retail would be around $1200."

have him prove it, he's an ambassador for them for crying out loud, he is supposed to say that....
i remember the Kastle dudes sating the same thing about the B-52...liars....
post #9 of 19
I demoed it last spring expecting to hate it and really really liked it. As for the tune. It sure is possible that it is a bad tune. My Dynastar Contact 11s came out of the reps demo fleet witha 5 degree base bevel. Talk about an awful ski! Now at .7 degrees, I love them.
post #10 of 19
waxman - I can't prove it... In all honesty though, it was a convo between just me, him, and another co-worker. I'm a college student, the co-worker is a high schooler, and he didn't give us a salesman pitch. He knows we aren't in the market and would have no reason to talk them up. Sure, there's a chance he was just doing a lot of talking.... But the smile on his face after every run is definitely not a put-on... He really loves the skis and you can tell.
post #11 of 19
And i'm not trying to say that anyone is right or wrong. I'm just giving a varying opinion I've heard on them and all the facts behind it.I could have easily left out the fact that he is a Rossi Rep, but since I knew that might have affected his opinion (or what he said about them at least), I knew it should be mentioned.
post #12 of 19
I demoed this ski in a 165 last spring and decided to buy them because it was a really fun and responsive ski. Then I demoed the 175s in December and liked them even better, so I'm getting those and giving my 165s to my 30 year old son who really likes them too.

I'm 6'2", 195#
Level 6-7
Raichle Flexcomp boots
40+ years skiing

I've skiied them in packed powder, ice and spring conditions and I found that skiing them with the long arms were much better in the ice and hard pack. The short arms are a blast in fresh snow conditions.

I think that the tune on the skis have a great deal to do with the performance because I also demoed the Dynastar Contact 11s the same day in December and had a really bad impression of them because they didn't compare favorably to the Rossi Mutix or Z9s. Of course, I'd just come off a great run on a pair of RTC Pirhanas, so I may have been swayed by it. However, I think that it was mostly a bad tune on the Contact 11s.

Mostly, my only gripe with the Mutix ski was the lack of information on how to easily change the arms without losing a screw in the snow.

HeluvaSkier, I just don't agree with your evaluation, but then I'm not a racer either, so maybe you're just a much stronger skier and able to overpower the ski and had a poorly tuned pair too.
But I like them anyway.
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by Hunki View Post
but then I'm not a racer either, so maybe you're just a much stronger skier and able to overpower the ski and had a poorly tuned pair too.

No disrespect, but yeah that's probably true.
post #14 of 19
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Originally Posted by doublediamond223 View Post
No disrespect, but yeah that's probably true.
None taken. I figure that if I'm having fun and enjoying the ski, then that's all that matters.
post #15 of 19
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Hunki View Post
None taken. I figure that if I'm having fun and enjoying the ski, then that's all that matters.
I agree Hunki. At your level I suspect that the Multix is a very good ski. I just didn't get the performance out of it that I had expected - as it is touted an an expert level ski. The ski felt like something that would be skied on and marketed to a lower level skier - not an expert skier. Just don't buy the ski expecting it to live up to the hype - a Rossi VS or even the Z9 out-performs the Multix.

Later

GREG
post #16 of 19
I have a very good friend PSIA III she has apair of these and loves them. She's a little French women that most out go to Pro Jam at Killington will know her, she works there also in the Skillfull Program.

As I said she enjoyed them out of the box, I think long arm in front short in back. Before whe went to Sunday River for the PSIA event a few weeks back I tuned them. I found the edge angles were off. I reset them at 2 degress all the way down them. I didn't get to talk to her before she skied them but I left her a note saying what I found and how I fixed them. When I saw her the next weekend, her first motion to me was a big thumbs up, with a big smile from across the room. Without having to ask I knew my tune made the ski that much better.

There's a saying we use in High Horse Power Turbo charged Honda's, "it's all in the tune"
post #17 of 19
Hah. I skied with her at SR. small world.
post #18 of 19
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Originally Posted by epic View Post
Hah. I skied with her at SR. small world.
I figured someone would know her.

I just read my post, sorry for the typo. "out" was supposed to be "who" I hate it when I don't proof read what I write.
post #19 of 19
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Originally Posted by HeluvaSkier View Post
I agree Hunki. At your level I suspect that the Multix is a very good ski. I just didn't get the performance out of it that I had expected - as it is touted an an expert level ski. The ski felt like something that would be skied on and marketed to a lower level skier - not an expert skier. Just don't buy the ski expecting it to live up to the hype - a Rossi VS or even the Z9 out-performs the Multix.

Later

GREG
Greg,

I did go ahead and get the Mutix 175's and just finished my first day on them at Wengen. Unfortunately, the Alps snow conditions are a lot worst than what I left in the Cascades. Spring conditions today, hard at the top and soft at the bottom, and had lots of bare spots showing. We were going to ski the Schilthorn tomorrow, but high winds are predicted and the top will be closed.

The skis performed great in everything I skiied, and I'm glad that I went for the extra 10 cm.

Later,

Joe
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