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Skis for NASTAR

post #1 of 6
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I have been skiing on the Atomic GS9 for two and half seasons now. It has been a great ski and has helped me a lot with learning how to ski the gates. I am getting golds on a fairly consistent basis but I tend to be at a wall; always about one and one half seconds away from getting a platinum.

The course I ski on is located at Wachusett Mountain in Massachusetts. It is fairly flat and the daily NASTAR course feels relatively straight (can basically stay in a tuck). I also ski the evening beer league, where they tend to sneak in two gates that are always further out than the others. I have been caught late more than once around those gates. Of course, the GS9 lets you still get around them.

My question is this. Could I benefit from a 21 meter radius GS ski? I demoed the Fischer RC4 world cup gs today. Unfortunately, they decided not to set up the gates. They seem to hold an edge much better than my ski, and felt much smoother (the snow was not frozen. Bummer). I intend to run them through the gates tomorrow, but I am curious as to what other people's experiences have been. A lot of the better skiers use the Atomic GS11 and put down some killer times. They probably have been racing all of their lives though. I am just a hacker that has been skiing the gates a couple of years.


Me - 5' 11" 170lbs
My Ski - GS9 170cm
My handicap in a skinny suit - 14


post #2 of 6
Just MY experience, YMMV;

I jumped from a cheater to a true GS this year and my times actually got slower. Our course sounds very much like yours....both daily and beer league. That said, as I'm starting to get used to having to use more muscle and technique to make the sneaky gates, I'm starting to see my times coming back down - very slowly . On the straighter courses and the courses where the conditions deteriored, I think the true GS skis are a lot more stable and let me hold a tighter line before breaking loose.

One of my teammates went from the Atomic GS11 to the Fisher RC4 GS last year and he's gotten a lot faster and more consistent. I found the Fisher was just too much ski and too unforgiving for my frequent mistakes.
post #3 of 6
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I am curious by what you mean too much ski. Do you notice it free skiing or only in the gates?

I found that the Fischer seemed to flex nicely(granted it worked my quads more); however I was not on ice. Interestingly, the ski is pretty flat when placed base to base, compared to my gs9, which has/had quite a bit of camber. I'm guessing the fischer is designed to load up when you put a negative bend into it.

Did the fischer tend to throw you out of the turns?
post #4 of 6
By 'too much ski', I mostly meant too unforgiving, and a little too stiff. I didn't get to try them in the gates, but freeskiing them actually scared me. After years on Volkls, I find the race stock Fishers to have too small a sweet spot and too stiff a tail. One little loss of balance to the rear sent me rocketing across the hill uncontrollably (of course I probably shouldn't have been on a 180 in that ski....170-175 maybe). My Racetigers actually allow the ocassional mistake without spanking me or throwing me to the ground - I feel that actually makes it faster..

Hubby raced on the RC4 for 2 years then did a 'side-by-side' of those and his P60 GS (both Race Stock w/ WC plate, both 180). He found almost identical times in the course on all 4 runs (2 each ski), but had to work "a lot" harder on the Fishers to make the gates - and he's a way more powerful skier than I. He promptly sold the Fishers to our team mate who now thoroughly whips both our butts .
post #5 of 6
One of the main keys to being fast on a relatively flat course, with relatively little offset is to remain soft on your edges while still maintaing the bend in the ski. Preserving the bend allows the arc to remain clean and will allow you to move your feet along the axis of the ski to manipulate the arc and release at the proper time (and in the proper direction). How stiff a ski you can do this on depends upon you. In general, a slightly softer ski will generally be easier to be fast on than a stiffer one.

Note that in an error free run, you might be marginally faster on a burly FIS level ski. However if you did get bucked, the time you'd lose climbing back into the front seat would usually negate any advantage.

post #6 of 6
I run a 175 Fischer Worldcup RC which is still in the realm of a cheater ski. I like a turnier ski. I skied a 183 (I think) Rossi worldcup with a >21 radius and did not like it at all. I love the fischer, it suits me nicely. It is fun to rip on groomers as well as on the race course. The only negatives I see is trying to turn at slower speeds. That ski just wants to run. I forgot to mention that we run on a flatter hill but with an average of 16 gates. Generally the offset isn't terrible but occasionally there are a few crankers that get thrown in.
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