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A brother for my RX8?

post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
I just got the RX8 (170) a few weeks ago and had the chance to ski on it at Hunter and Windham last weekend. Besides loving the ski completely on the ice/hardpack of those places, I did notice that when there was a mound of crud or anything more than an inch of fresh stuff, the skis tended to lose some of the stability and were getting thrown around. I'm going up to Okemo and Killington (maybe Mt. Snow) in a few weeks and am worried that if theres anything more than an inch or two of fresh snow, my RX8 are not going to be ideal.

Does anyone have a thought out there for a ski (hopefully I can get a year or two old, 05 or 06) that will still give me the ability to make my short terms with stability through up to say 6'' of powder that can compliment the RX8 in the Northeast? I really only want a 2 ski quiver, the RX8 for the majority of hardpack/ice days, and then if some snow happens to fall, I can use this other ski with similar performance (obviously it won't carve as well) but will not be thrown around in crud and a few inches of powder?

I know price isn't that important, but I'm looking to spend ~$200 on some older year skis w/ bindings, because I really love my RX8s and its going to be the main ski I use. Some suggestions were given to me about the AMC 76, AC-3, Legend 8800 (or 8000 i can't remember).

Any help is definitely appreciated!
post #2 of 10
An RX-8 should not get thrown around in "a few inches of powder". Are you sure your technique keeps you on the front of your boot in powder and ungroomed conditions? If you get back on any ski the tips will wander.
post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
It wasn't so much powder, it was more clumps of crud. The powder just felt different than on the hardpack and ice, not really unstable, just took a little getting used to. It was the mound of crud that really threw my skis when I went through it.
post #4 of 10
I recently skied my RX8's back to back with my AMC 79's in around 4-6 inches of fresh. I did not seem to have any problems with the RX8's in those conditions. Initially, maybe try sliding the bindings forward to the +15 mark and see what that does for you. As the previous poster suggested, try to keep your shins on the front of your boots (hands up & forward) report back.
post #5 of 10
I'm going to agree with the other posters and suggest that this is a technique issue far more then an equipment issue. Skiing variable conditions is never going to feel as smooth as groomers do. You're going to have to accept some momentary imbalance as you go over / through snow piles.

Your skis are going to slow down as they go up or through the snow piles that you're talking about. You need to be pro-active about dealing with that. There are a variety of tactics / techniques that you can employ to deal with it, but the important thing is that you do something so that the snow pile puts you back in balance as oppossed to knocking you off balance.
post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 
It probably is mostly me. Most of the time I'm forward over my boots/ shins brushing the front, but when I go through crud it throws me most of the time because I don't see it well enough and am not prepared.

Kevin, I definitely agree with you that I need to be proactive about it, even if that means taking the goggles off so I can see the darn stuff. When I am proactive (or when I see the piles in advance), I retain at least 90% of my balance. I guess my original question is answered, because obviously, skied right, the RX8's can handle the 4-6'' of powder. I just haven't had the opportunity to ski any real powder yet, and was wondering if they would still perform well.

Thank you for all the help guys, you just saved me money and helped me learn how to be better (which I could always use)!

P.S. I will also try the forward (+15) position on the bindings to see the difference and will report if it provides additional help.
post #7 of 10
What skis were you one before the RX8?

The shapely RX8, like all modern slalom carvers, likes to be on edge, and it will wander a bit if run flat. If your run flat through little piles of snow, the piles of snow effectively put it on edge for you and make it want to turn over every little bump.

If you have ability and want something that is less affected by crud, then I suggest Atomic SX11 or 12.
post #8 of 10
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post
What skis were you one before the RX8?

The shapely RX8, like all modern slalom carvers, likes to be on edge, and it will wander a bit if run flat. If your run flat through little piles of snow, the piles of snow effectively put it on edge for you and make it want to turn over every little bump.

If you have ability and want something that is less affected by crud, then I suggest Atomic SX11 or 12.
Ghost took the words right out of my mouth. Get them on edge in crud or the tips will wonder a bit. this is true of any ski with a large sidecut.
Also, keep in mind that the RX8 is a relatively lively ski and will give you feedback as to what is happening under you.
post #9 of 10
Atomic Metron B5 will smooth out the slope for you and carve just as well and give you a little more float in powder if you want to replace your RX-8's. Or like others have said you can keep the RX8's on edge.
post #10 of 10
How do the RX8s compare to the AC3s? (Out of curiousity) Anyone skied both?
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