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Slalom - with or without a helmet ?

post #1 of 14
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Coming from a background of racing slalom "sans" helmet, I'm just curious as to wheter it should still be permitted or not. ACA (provincial and national races that are not FIS homologated) level races require helmet in all disciplines now, while the FIS doesn't even require a helmet in GS. Now that's a loophole if I ever saw one, but we don't have to go that far back to see people racing GS in a tuque or with nothing at all on their head... We have a picture in the coach lodge of a Canadian racer circa 1993 during a national championship and he doesn't wear a helmet at the start of a gs course...

I really like racing slalom without one: I feel more attuned to the snow and like the feeling. But now that I can't, even in training, I'm a bit bummed.

The culture has definitely changed from "it won't ahppen to me, so why wear a helmet" to "wearing a helmet is safer so down the drain with personal preferences and liberties". Is that a good thing ?
post #2 of 14
During summer 2006, USSA and FIS both adopted new rules requiring helmets in all alpine disciplines.

http://www.vara.org/forms/FISandUSSA...Summer2006.pdf
post #3 of 14
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Originally Posted by BillyRay View Post
Coming from a background of racing slalom "sans" helmet, I'm just curious as to wheter it should still be permitted or not.

I really like racing slalom without one: I feel more attuned to the snow and like the feeling. But now that I can't, even in training, I'm a bit bummed.
The thing I miss is clear hearing but at least they let you wear SL helmets. Not the basher bands but the more helmet like models from Scott, Carrera, Fuxi etc. I like to wear a chin guard and or mouthpiece in training only because dental work is so damn expensive and especially in the cold teeth crack which will often go to the root necessitating a crown or a bridge; both of which are 1K+. That is just another sign of being old I guess evaluating risk/dollars all the time. Kids are lucky - no job, no mortgages and we provide everything. Grandkids in my case

- Fossil
post #4 of 14
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Did not know about the rule change... I was curious as to why Pallander was now wearing a helmet in slalom now.

Still, I see this as a good thing: I've witnessed many people having their teeth broken or cheekbones fractured after a well (or wrong?) placed gate. Sure, I loved to go at it wearing only a headband, but on the long run, anything that keeps racers safer is a step in the right direction.

Plus, machoism is not as hot as it used to be
post #5 of 14
I used to get hit in the face with gates all the time, so that's definitely one valid reason for helmets in SL. I also had my worst racing crashes in SL. One colorful example is when I hooked a tip on a gate at the top of the steep part of the course, got spun around, and landed on my back, on the ice. If I hadn't been wearing a helmet, I could easily have had a head injury.
post #6 of 14
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Hooking (has opposed to plain old straddling were you just take it in the family jewels) happens all the time nowdays with the new courses. Search youtube for the "slalom slowmotion sequence" and you'll see that WCupers, in order to get their best line, have to drift (just like in GS) the top part of the turn. This is no ordinary pivot, but a major redirection. This redirection is difficult to master and I've seen a lot of people hook it and get spun on ther back because of they couldn't pull it off right.
post #7 of 14
those gates can hurt. IF I was was still wacking wickets..i would be wearing a brain bucket.
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Do you know that guy? Not wearing a helpmet didn't seem to bother him much ...
post #9 of 14
U ain't he neither am me
post #10 of 14
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Do you know that guy? Not wearing a helpmet didn't seem to bother him much ...
Kalle Palander. I've never seen him miss a gate clear in the videos, whereas I miss them all the time and get hit in the shoulder or face. Using a WC racer as a basis for what all skiers should do is pretty ridiculous.
post #11 of 14
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Originally Posted by doublediamond223 View Post
Kalle Palander. I've never seen him miss a gate clear in the videos, whereas I miss them all the time and get hit in the shoulder or face. Using a WC racer as a basis for what all skiers should do is pretty ridiculous.
I think you've drawn the wrong conclusion. No one said anything about "all skiers". The idea was that when someone is as good as Kalle he or she may not need a helmet for slalom.
Besides the new rules require racers to wear a helmet with chinguard for slalom , so its a moot point.
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by Spandex Monkey View Post
Besides the new rules require racers to wear a helmet with chinguard for slalom , so its a moot point.
Really? Thought it was just a helmet.
post #13 of 14
Thread Starter 
Well, Bygmarks doesn't wear one and neither do Bode or Ted so I guess the new rules just ask for helmets.
post #14 of 14
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Really? Thought it was just a helmet.
It's just a helmet. Lots of racers race without chinguards (none of them me ... most all of them better than me).
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