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Yeah, I know - reading's not a sport. Where else do you want me to post this?

I'm looking for good satirical/black humor in the vein of Kurt Vonnegut.

Any suggestions?
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Before anyone suggests it, I've already read "Catch 22" a bunch of times.
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Tibor Fischer
Douglas Adams (possibly)
Stephen Fry
And if you've read Catch 22, have you read "Closing Time" - Heller's follow up to it?
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I don't know that I would paint it into the corner of "satircal/black humor," but if you have never read Tom Robbins, it's definitely worth considering.

I more or less like everything he has written, but I would start with:

Fierce Invalids Home From Hot Climates

or

Even Cowgirls Get The Blues

If you like Kurt, Cath 22, et al, I can't imagine that you wouldn't like Tom Robbins.
post #5 of 19
"Satanic Verses" - Rushdie
post #6 of 19
John Kennedy Toole's A Confederacy of Dunces.


"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

- Johnathan Swift
post #7 of 19
Just about anything by Martin Amis.

His father Kingsley Amis also had a fairly dark and sharp sense of humor. My favorite is "Ending Up" -- about aging and the elderly. A true sacred cow, which he butchers with great precision.
post #8 of 19
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Thanks for the recommendations. Will definetely check out Heller's "Closing Time" (didn't even know about that one) as well as the others.
post #9 of 19
If you like ScienceFictiony stuff - anything by John Sladek, many books by Stanislaw Lem.
post #10 of 19
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Yeah, I know - reading's not a sport. Where else do you want me to post this?

I'm looking for good satirical/black humor in the vein of Kurt Vonnegut.

Any suggestions?
You wanna talk satire there Jer I know some satire what do you consider satire besides Kurt Vonnegut I mean Kurt's funny and sure he is a satire guy but hey theres all kinds of satire in the world and hey ya know what is cool about satire its what they dont teach at the kewpie dust academy for starched collars and stuffed shirts ya know? Anyway I have some ideas for you there Jer and heres what they are okay?

Theres a dude named Mark Leyner that has written some really funny books and my favorite one is called Et Tu Babe and theres another funny one called My Cousin My Gastroenterologist.

Then theres some more properlike satire from across the pond you know over there in jolly old England that place our wise pilgrim ancestors escaped because of that Billy Sunday fire and brimstone ragging from the pulpit and heres who I like best from over there in jolly old first theres this guy named Martin Amis and his book Times Arrow is a good satire of a sort but kinda dark and maybe even sick and if you just want straight up satire try his other books Money or maybe Dead Babies. Then theres this other guy who does a lot of satire about the world of college academics and you know hed have a field day with those kewpie dust starched collar people and his name is David Lodge and I think the book Nice Work pretty much stands up for itself. And the last one from over in jolly old England that I like is Martins father Kingsley Amis his book Lucky Jim is probably where David Lodge got a lot of his ideas and theres also his classic The Green Man.

Then if your really into the deepest darkest thick woods in the black forest of satire theres that dude David Foster Wallace and his book Infinite Jest is about as good a satire as anyone ever wrote if you ask me and even if you dont and hes also got some good satire essays put together in a book called A Supposedly Funny Thing Illl Never Do Again and that one can make you laugh out loud if you arent too selfconscious.

Now Im sure these kinds of books dont meet with sjjjjjjjjjonstons approval and he probly thinks there all for idiots and fools but I dont care what anyone else thinks your asking about satire not about what the kewpie dust academy wants to read.
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John Kennedy Toole's A Confederacy of Dunces.
Hey there ryan man I heard that ones funny whats it about anyway is it about the civil war?
post #12 of 19
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Thanks for the recommendations. Will definetely check out Heller's "Closing Time" (didn't even know about that one) as well as the others.

He wrote it in the late 90s (I think), and it's set then, about how all the guys grew up, and where they are now. For me it's quite different to C-22, perhaps because I was reading it when it was written, about the times it was written in, rather than C-22, which I read in the 80s, many years after it was written, and dealing with times that I wasn't alive in.
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While you're on a Heller kick, try "Something Happened". It's been years and years since I read it, but he skewers corporate life pretty thoroughly.

"A Confederacy of Dunces" takes place in New Orleans and is not about the Civil War. It's about Ignatius Reilly (sic) and well, you'll just have to read this one. Truly really an original work.

Not so much in a satirical vein, but nice and dark, would be anything by Jerzy Kozinski. I'd particularly recommend "Cockpit", "The Painted Bird" and "Being There". Interestingly, "Being There" is one of the few films that actually compliments the book very well.

I've been mostly reading non-fiction the past few years, but if anything comes to mind I'll post it.

Oh yeah, for a wonderful, dark, satirical film pick up "The Hospital" with George C. Scott. It's devastating!!

Ken
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Hey there ryan man I heard that ones funny whats it about anyway is it about the civil war?
you must be thinking about r. brautigan's a confederate general from big sur.
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Not so much in a satirical vein, but nice and dark, would be anything by Jerzy Kozinski. I'd particularly recommend "Cockpit", "The Painted Bird" and "Being There". Interestingly, "Being There" is one of the few films that actually compliments the book very well.
"Being There" is one of my top 10 films of all time. Peter Sellers = genius.
post #16 of 19
Tom Mcguane...Nobody,s Angel
Carl Hiaasen
post #17 of 19
any book by Thomas Pynchon
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I only read one Lem book ... with "Trul & Klapacisus, the great constructors" ... ??? Funny as hell and I still love the line about ."06 dragons" ....

How about some of Vonnegut's other stuff written under the name Kilgore Trout? MHO, not as good but ..

Trout Fishing in America .... some of the old Brautigan suff?
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Just about anything by Martin Amis.

His father Kingsley Amis also had a fairly dark and sharp sense of humor. My favorite is "Ending Up" -- about aging and the elderly. A true sacred cow, which he butchers with great precision.
KA's Stanley and the Women... anything by Burroughs or Miller...there's tons of it out there..google satire.
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