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Alternative base cleaners

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
This weekend, I seem to have found a rock or two. Not a core shot, but I would still like to get it fixed before i head out this weekend.

Typically, I have just used a P-tex candle, and never given any thought to cleaning the base first. This time around, I'm looking for something more durable/proffesional, as the skis are almost brand new. There is not enogh time for me to order materials, so I stopped by the local shopd this morning and picked up a length of P-tex welding rod for a price. Unfourtunatly, there was no way for them to sell me base cleaner.

Anyone have good recomendations for "off the shelf" base cleaners? I'm sure I have read something on here somewhere about household cleaners. In the end, when I have more time, I'll end up ordering the correct stuff.
post #2 of 24
acetone



(that's probably going to get me flamed by the safety crew, should've said CCl4 and let them argue me down.)
post #3 of 24
Here is what I use:
http://www.slidewright.com/products.php?cat=27

However, while I'm not big with "off the shelf"; in a pinch I will use a green product called "Restore" all purpose cleaner uses citrus (restoreproducts.com). Not sure if available in Rochester? (Note, lived in Pittsford for years while working at George's 343 State Street headquarters)

Good Skiing!
post #4 of 24
Thread Starter 
That's not too harsh (acetone)? I use it all the time working with composites, pretty much disolves anything....

Don,
I'm going to do up an order for some more stuff from Terry as soon as I get a chance (100 grit diamond, cleaner, p-tex), but I just did this last weekend, no time to go the mail order route. I'll take a look around tonight after class for Restore.

I'm sure I can find something that will work, is there anyhting that I should specifically NOT use? Now that I give it some thought, I have some de-waxer at home for painting cars/fiberglass boats that would probably work real nice...just to bad it is back in Maine.
post #5 of 24
This is what I use. You can find it a most good hardware stores. A friend of mine used it when he worked at Boeing to clean graphite parts. Be leary most citrus cleaners since they are usually harsh mineral oils with citrus scenting added.

http://www.schaefferoil.com/specialty/266_citrol.html
post #6 of 24
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Originally Posted by Rio View Post
...Be leary most citrus cleaners since they are usually harsh mineral oils with citrus scenting added.
Good point Rio as I hear so many say they are using a "citrus" for a cleaner. The particular product I posted is low scale harsh used in a pinch.
post #7 of 24
I don't think so, since you'll only be using just enough to do the job. Massive dissolving power -> Less used-> less cleaner residue -> job done quicker.

Heck, it evaporates before it can even melt the Q-tip.
post #8 of 24
Thread Starter 
Looking at the MSDS on the Restore All Purpose, the stuff is pretty neutral, water based, non-reactive, pH no worse then water.
post #9 of 24
But I do like the comprex axiom that if it evaporates before it can even melt a Q-tip it’s probably your efforts scrubbing rather than the cleaner that is getting the job done.
post #10 of 24
That's why it lives in the freezer section of the beer fridge.
post #11 of 24
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Damn, I knew I was forgetting something!

What beer goes well with base repair?
post #12 of 24
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Damn, I knew I was forgetting something!

What beer goes well with base repair?
Deschutes Black Butte Porter is my favorite when working on bases.
post #13 of 24
…what’s with the beer?

Common, up the ante! At least shoot for a fine Shiraz for heaven sake. And for that matter; dress up, wear a tie, shine those shoes!! We must all do our part to elevate shop demeanor.
post #14 of 24

I've also used bike chain cleaner like EconLine for base cleaning. Regardless of the cleaner, along with dryness, grime & dust free, I find it important to rough up the repair area with sand paper or possibly slices or mini-holes like any wood repair or other repair project to increase the 'grab'. If you haven't seen it here's some base repair ideas.

I've been wondering about the base for Kwik Base Cleaner cited above. I think it is a mineral or other base. The BioCitron is citrus and does remove wax well. I think it's the least 'harsh' of the ones I've tried. I'm not sure yet how well Simple Green or the like works, but the ski bases can and do take more abuse than many give them credit.


Edited by Alpinord - 9/23/11 at 9:18am
post #15 of 24
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Originally Posted by DonDenver View Post
…what’s with the beer?

Common, up the ante! At least shoot for a fine Shiraz for heaven sake. And for that matter; dress up, wear a tie, shine those shoes!! We must all do our part to elevate shop demeanor.
What temp wax should I be using to polish my shoes? Liquid wax sure would make them shine....
post #16 of 24

Lincoln Stain Wax

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What temp wax should I be using to polish my shoes? Liquid wax sure would make them shine....
Well there was this thread on the ShoeShining board about filling in the pores with Kiwi basic before the parade gloss, polishing the parade gloss with panty hose, then running a BiC lighter close but not in contact with the shoe. The final gloss is done with next-to-freezing water.. .










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post #17 of 24
Diluted Simple Green for the bases, Full strength Long Trail Ale for the tuner.
post #18 of 24
How about hot waxing/scraping the ski to clean it.
post #19 of 24
To get a good bond for base repairs, you need to remove the wax in the repair area, and anything else that would be counterproductive.

For the real tough repair jobs Black & Tans are the only answer.
post #20 of 24
Thread Starter 
I could throw an Irish car bomb at it, or a Molotov Cocktail...that should do it:

On a side note, I found some Swix base cleaner at Dick's, I'll be using that+el cheapo soldering iron+P-tex string.
post #21 of 24
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I could throw an Irish car bomb at it, or a Molotov Cocktail...that should do it:

On a side note, I found some Swix base cleaner at Dick's, I'll be using that+el cheapo soldering iron+P-tex string.
Don't forget something metallic to press it in with.
post #22 of 24
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acetone
Acetone is the main ingredient in nail polish remover. You'll have to look on a different shelf...
post #23 of 24
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Cabinfever View Post
Diluted Simple Green for the bases, Full strength Long Trail Ale for the tuner.
Props on the Long Trail Picked some up this afternoon, working on it right now (the skis too).
post #24 of 24
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Acetone is the main ingredient in nail polish remover. You'll have to look on a different shelf...
I'll stock up on the Campari and soda while I'm there.
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