or Connect
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

I-70 Traffic Sunday pm

post #1 of 56
Thread Starter 
Sure this has been covered before but anyway just a warning to anyone heading to CO ski areas for the w/e with a Sunday evening flight home. On Sunday just past (Jan 28) I hit Silverthorne coming from Steamboat at 4.15pm. My flight was at 8.10pm so I figured I had plenty of time even if the normal 1.5hr drive took an extra hour. It ended up taking 3.5hrs and I missed my flight. Not sure if there was anything particular going on as I didn't see any signs of accidents, just looked to be traffic volume related.

Can any locals chime in on whether this has become the norm for Sundays on I-70 ?
post #2 of 56
That's the norm. Just morons from the flat lands.
post #3 of 56
Actually it's just too many people with too little space.

Yes it is normal on Sundays for the drive to suck. You need to be cruising out of Summit by 2 to have an easier drive.

From Steamboat a better option would probably be to drive 40 through Winterpark and over Berthoud Pass. You'll still have traffic on 70 but probably only 30-40 minutes of it until you hit Floyd Hill where the highway goes to 3 lanes and traffic starts to flow again.
post #4 of 56
Indeed this is the norm. Twice this season I've come home Sunday and it has taken 4 hours (normally 2 hours or slightly more). Sometimes they close the tunnel for hazard trucking or some such which further impacts the issue. An alternative is to take highway 9 south of Breck and connect up to 285.
post #5 of 56
The last few weekends have been the worst I've seen.... not sure why. You need to either leave early (around 1:00) or late (around 5:00).
post #6 of 56
We hit the interstate at Frisco at 6:30 this past Sunday. It took us 2.5 hours to go 70 miles to Lakewood on the west side. On the radio they mentioned that it was going to be bad all night due to the Winter X-Games being over that afternoon. That may be the reason that last Sunday was quite bad, but that's also the first time I've driven back on a Sunday evening.
post #7 of 56
The traffics bad on Sundays until you move away, miss the mountains, snow, and eventually the traffic. I've got to stop making depressing posts about my ski season(or lack there of)
post #8 of 56
That Sunday was unusually bad ... as previously posted, because of the X-Games' traffic.

Finbar - Your departing flight tells me you were counting on IDEAL driving conditions. ... Which is counter-intuitive. Weren't you hoping for good -- maybe even FRESH -- snow? That means "okay" driving ... at best.

(And it's at least a 2-hour drive from Silverthorne to DIA. You simply cut it too close....)

- KK
post #9 of 56
Thread Starter 
Hopefully X-Games had something to do with it though as has been mentioned this was not a one off. There were a lot of pissed off people at the airport I can tell you but Frontier at least were allowing re-booking without any charge. I will def. be trying the Winter Park route next time I plan to travel on a Sun though frankly I think it will be a while before I do that again.
post #10 of 56
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaptain Karl View Post
That Sunday was unusually bad ... as previously posted, because of the X-Games' traffic.

Finbar - Your departing flight tells me you were counting on IDEAL driving conditions. ... Which is counter-intuitive. Weren't you hoping for good -- maybe even FRESH -- snow? That means "okay" driving ... at best.

(And it's at least a 2-hour drive from Silverthorne to DIA. You simply cut it too close....)

- KK
Indeed I was cutting it a wee bit close though even if it took 3hrs I would still have made it. I don't think it is realistic to plan for 10mph average driving speed though otherwise you would never leave home :
post #11 of 56
I was stuck in the thick of it this past Sunday. It took 5 hours to go from Copper to Colorado Springs. There was a car stalled in the middle lane coming up to the Eisenhower tunnel (or whatever the East-bound side is caled). I have never skied in this part of the country before, but the people I was with have lived in the Springs and skied off of 70 for a few years, said it was the worst they had ever seen it.
post #12 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by killclimbz View Post
Actually it's just too many people with too little space.
People say this, but I don't buy it. If the cars are all moving at a reasonable speed, you can pack the same number in without problems. Some person managed to get into an accident on the east side of the tunnel on Sunday (and another later in the backup on the west side). How someone manages to do that on a clear day, high visibility, dry roads, I'll never know. Furthermore, it seems to me that many folks hit their brakes for no reason, drive in the left lane at 35mph even when it's clear, and on and on. Why?

I don't get it.

So, yeah, it's becoming the norm, but I don't think it's because of volume. I think it's because there are more people who don't know how to maintain their speed on a limited access highway which implies that there will be enough people to negatively impact the flow on such a day.

Yeah, I wasn't happy. : And I'm glad I have to do it so rarely.
post #13 of 56
I travel almost every Sunday. Even in the Summer this can be the norm. Once in a while it isn't as bad.

Either leave before 2pm or after 6pm on Sunday. check http://www.cotrip.org before hand if you have time.
post #14 of 56
The traffic has become so hideous that my buddy and I are considering dropping our Summit County passes in favor of (gasp) Eldora. That's a big tradeoff.

I think the resorts are missing an opportunity to improve sales and to be good corporate citizens. They should consider offering and organizing a bus service from Morrison (or even distributed within the Denver Metro area). I suspect that they could offer a bundled season bus and ski pass that would pull a sufficient number of autos off of the road and result in transit times that would be acceptable to all.

Otherwise, we just need a Broncos team that is in the playoffs and Superbowl so that there is little traffic.

Mike
post #15 of 56
Quote:
Quote:
Originally Posted by killclimbz View Post
...

From Steamboat a better option would probably be to drive 40 through Winterpark and over Berthoud Pass. You'll still have traffic on 70 but probably only 30-40 minutes of it until you hit Floyd Hill where the highway goes to 3 lanes and traffic starts to flow again.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Finbar View Post
...I will def. be trying the Winter Park route next time I plan to travel on a Sun though frankly I think it will be a while before I do that again.
I have seen on many occasions Sunday taking 2 hours from Dumont to Hwy 6. OK, 1½ hours if you know the dirt road "shortcut."

Quote:
Originally Posted by habacomike View Post
The traffic has become so hideous that my buddy and I are considering dropping our Summit County passes in favor of (gasp) Eldora. That's a big tradeoff.
Only Silverton and Wolf Creek have more snow this year.
post #16 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by habacomike View Post
The traffic has become so hideous that my buddy and I are considering dropping our Summit County passes in favor of (gasp) Eldora. That's a big tradeoff.

I think the resorts are missing an opportunity to improve sales and to be good corporate citizens. They should consider offering and organizing a bus service from Morrison (or even distributed within the Denver Metro area). I suspect that they could offer a bundled season bus and ski pass that would pull a sufficient number of autos off of the road and result in transit times that would be acceptable to all.

Otherwise, we just need a Broncos team that is in the playoffs and Superbowl so that there is little traffic.

Mike
First off, I must say- don't be ridiculous! Eldora for the Summit resorts? You'll regret that in a second.

Secondly, on your bus suggestion... I don't know why no one has done this before, and I always say something about it when we drive up. The thing I've noticed though, is that you almost never see buses on I-70, so I wonder if there's some kind of restriction on that type of thing? When I was in Tahoe a few years ago they had buses running from the casinos to Kirkwood/Heavenly/etc, so its being done...
post #17 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Dunn View Post
Secondly, on your bus suggestion... I don't know why no one has done this before, and I always say something about it when we drive up.
Same here. While light rail or widening the road may be long-term solutions, buses could be implemented pretty easily and quickly. Why not have a common bus system that picks up at Morrison and drops off at Frisco/Silverthorne -- then from there you can board a specific bus for your specific resort. And having a lift+bus season pass would make a whole lot of sense. For the long-term I'm in favor of a light-rail. Again, pick up in Morrison (or Union Station with a stop in Morrison), stop along the way in Idaho Springs/Downieville, and then make stops close to the ski areas (I-70/US-40, Loveland exit, Frisco/Silverthorne, Vail) -- buses can then transport from the rail to the ski area.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Dunn
The thing I've noticed though, is that you almost never see buses on I-70, so I wonder if there's some kind of restriction on that type of thing?
That can't be it, because I've seen Greyhound and lots of tour buses in the mornings.
post #18 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Dunn View Post
When I was in Tahoe a few years ago they had buses running from the casinos to Kirkwood/Heavenly/etc, so its being done...
The casinos in Central City and Blackhawk run buses from the Heritage Square parking lot on the weekends. So they're doing it too. Looked like it was a common bus, and not casino-specific.
post #19 of 56
^^^ Those are usually casino specific. I know a guy who did some fundraisers, and the buses ran to one casino for like $600. I'm sure there are several that just drop you off at a certain spot, too.

If the casinos can organize this stuff, why can't the ski resorts? :
post #20 of 56
I would imagine that if it weren't cost prohibitive, that they'd be able to get enough riders to have busses specific to each ski area. I don't see why they wouldn't be able to fill multiple busses for each area.

I guess the issue is people that are staying overnight, dealing with baggage, needed to get to a condo or hotel that's not right at the ski area, and getting around in the evening. I know the Summit Stage is good for that, but I get the impression that a lot of people think it's too inconvenient. Even though I had a car with me when I lived out there in the late 80s, I still occasionally used the busses.

But for day skiers, it would be a perfect solution. Meet at the Denver West Marriott, or somewhere around there at 6:30am. $20/person round trip, times 30 people on a buss would be $600. It's cheaper than gas money for a single person. But if you've got 3 or 4 people, the $60 - $80 is a lot more than gas money. If it were subsidised by the local gov't and/or the ski areas, so that it was $5/person or free, it would get a lot of use, get a ton of cars off the road and save a lot of green house gasses.

Korporal - Why did you take 70 back to COS? Is Rt9 from Breck to COS closed?
post #21 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by Harry Dunn View Post
^^^ Those are usually casino specific. I know a guy who did some fundraisers, and the buses ran to one casino for like $600. I'm sure there are several that just drop you off at a certain spot, too.

If the casinos can organize this stuff, why can't the ski resorts? :
Because the casinos know the average person is also going to drop a few hundred bucks into one armed bandits or at a table. Their profit margins are a whole lot higher.

That said, if one of the ski areas out there hired a regularly scheduled bus to go from Denver to their front ticket window, I bet they could fill it easily. I bet they'd even be able to run it free of charge and the increase in business would pay for it (unless it's full of season pass holders).
post #22 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by madmike View Post
On the radio they mentioned that it was going to be bad all night due to the Winter X-Games being over that afternoon. .
Why? Were the grungy-hitch-hiking trolls standing in the road?
post #23 of 56
On days when the traffic is crappy, I am glad to ski at Loveland on most of my weekends. Over the last month or so, it has taken about 2 hours to get home from there.

A few weekends ago it took 4 hours from Copper. 2 hours from Silverthorne to the tunnel.. Uggghhhh...

I like the idea of buses.. Every once in a while you will see some Arrow buses, I think it is with a program called Colorado Ski Academy. Cool kids program from your kids school.

Jim
post #24 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by habacomike View Post
The traffic has become so hideous that my buddy and I are considering dropping our Summit County passes in favor of (gasp) Eldora. That's a big tradeoff.
Mike, please don't do that. And don't tell anyone about Eldora. I like Eldora the way it is with no lift lines, variable terrain and the home feel attitude of most people around. Man, if everyone starts coming to Eldora, I'm gonna have to start going up to Summit County.
post #25 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssh View Post
I don't get it.
It's the spacing between cars. Whenever another car enters the fray, the car behind has to lag a bit to re-establish space. Multiply that by a lot of cars already on the road and more jammin' in and there's your traffic pile-ups.
post #26 of 56
Quote:
Originally Posted by faisasy View Post
While light rail or widening the road may be long-term solutions
Problem lays with the tunnels, unfortunately. Light rail to the tunnel, then a huge-ass tram, that's the answer!
post #27 of 56
Seemed really crowded to me on Sat at Keystone and Sunday at Breck. (27th and 28th.) Not local boy, so no comparison.

Hearing these horror stories I am very glad/lucky I decided to go down to DIA on early monday am for 10 am flight. Woo Hoo, finally make a traffic decision the correct way!!!
post #28 of 56
I always ski Saturdays, and seems like the traffic hasn't been too bad this year. I usually leave the Rathskeller around 4:30.
post #29 of 56
It's a tunnel - not a funnel!
post #30 of 56
So many people have the perception that a bus system wouldn't fit their needs. From Glenwood to Aspen (40 miles) the bus is more convenient than driving. Mostly because parking is so limited around the ski areas. So even if you drive, you end up on a shuttle bus (from the parking lots to the base areas). Additionally, on the highway, the bus lane / carpool lane travels so much faster than the ordinary traffic lane(s).

Certainly families will find a car more convenient but those cars are not really the problem. It's the half full, or single passenger cars that clog the highway. Until the urban skiers lose their perception that a car is "necessary", none of this will change.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: General Skiing Discussion