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post #61 of 79
Originally posted by SnO Eagle #:
I think age does affect your skiing ability, but HEATH is the major factor in skiing to the ripe age of Ott, Oboe, and the other over age 50 Bear's.
I agree with Sno Eagle. Eat as many HEATH bars as you can. Damn, I love english toffee (though not as much as malt liquor).

Breakfast of champions:

post #62 of 79

I'm going to do 2 plates by the end of the summer, come hell or high water.

Doesn't sound like much, but for me, it's a lot!

post #63 of 79
I guess I asked for that. :
post #64 of 79
Originally posted by irul&ublo:

I agree with Sno Eagle. Eat as many HEATH bars as you can. Damn, I love english toffee (though not as much as malt liquor).

Breakfast of champions:


: [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img] :
I know.. typo.
post #65 of 79
I'm a late starter..... 49 this year and only took up skiing about 3 years ago. Now that I've got the bug I just can't quit [img]smile.gif[/img]

Physically I'm in excellant condition. I work out 4x a week (weights, cardio) and I'm on my bike and rollerblades during the summer. My physical conditioning has probably contributed to the accelerated advances I've made in skiing in such a short time. Plus putting in 40-50 days a season doesn't hurt either.

The thing that has bothered me the most about aging as far as skiing ability goes, is eyesight. The ole eyes ain't what they used to be. White-out conditions and flat lighting are my downfall. The eyes just aren't as quick to focus and discern subtle contrasts in the snow when the lighting is poor. On a bright sunny day, I'm superman. On a cloudy white-out day, I feel like a blind man.

[ May 06, 2002, 09:56 PM: Message edited by: wizard ]
post #66 of 79
You guys are crackin me up.. go Ott; anyway, as far as eyesight goes, I've only got one eye that works and can't see out the other much. Assuming you know the mountain, making good short and medium radius turns in a whiteout should work; lack of vision is a mind thing and learning to ski by feel can make one ski better.I've gotten used to skiing Alta's backside (which is wide open) in poor visibility and am pretty comfortable except when you can't tell up from down and you start seeing spots; and can't tell how fast you're going..and get sick to your stomach..sorta like the under the bar thing. Anyway, on blizzard days everything is soft but the trees and they're those big black things.
post #67 of 79

Even on a machine, 400lbs is very impressive. The reason I asked is because I have been a bodybuilder for over 20 years and I was curious. Just to let you know (here comes the tape [img]smile.gif[/img] ), I have only managed 320lbs (free weights) at a bodyweight of 163-164lbs when I was around 24-25 years old. I stopped competing in bodybuilding at 26 and it has been "downhill" ever since. I will be 40 years old this summer.

But I still train hard and at 160lbs I still look decent for an old geezer. Strength, speed, stamina, agility are however much lower. For example today I won't go over 225lbs in benchpress because I am afraid of injuries. In skiing I use the same approach. I use my skills to have fun, ski smoothly and avoid injuries. Pushing my limits is no longer a primary goal in skiing, bodybuilding, running or any other physical activity.
post #68 of 79
Depends when you started skiing. I'm 40, began four years ago, getting better all the time and still just scratching the surface. Athleticism will give way to refined technique and I'll be improving, drastically, for at least 15 more years, more if I take good care of myself.
I'll never have the powerful style I would've had in my twenties had I begun skiing as a child, and I'd certainly be an immensely better skier than I am now, assuming I hadn't beaten myself up too much. But my knees are great and I'm only now beginning to feel like I have a clue about skiing. One thing is certain; technique is more important than physical prowess. Skiing with poor technique IS fatiguing, and certainly some days conditions are more physically demanding than others; but by and large, if you're balanced and flowing, you can do without the mega-miles on the bike and the 600-pound squats.
I happen to like the gym (too) and spend plenty of time there. For one, I know that I WILL be skiing at the age of 70, at least, and want the ski skills I have at that time to have a vehicle capable of executing my ski intent. I don't know that I'll be slicing monster arcs at 50 mph at that time but I do expect to be a little better then at the slow dance with powder (for example). And by then I'll have most of the big turns out of my system.
Skiing is balance. More than endurance or power. Your skiing suffers when you can't adapt to the conditions. Aging is a guaranteed condition. The style of the turns may change, and the amount of vertical; but I see no reason why the skiing itself - the experience - need decline.
post #69 of 79
I turn 47 this year. I am in the process of going from 210 to 170. I run five days a week and plan to do a marathon this fall. I'm clearly stronger and in better shape than I was in my twenties. I think conditioning is the key to cheating father time.
post #70 of 79
I see no reason why the skiing itself - the experience - need decline.
Me neither. I ski better today than ever. And I started when I was three.

As long as I can get 40,000 feet of vertical in day, I can't consider myself old. But the minute that slips, I'm going to the gym.
post #71 of 79
I am only 18 but my left kidney has aged somewhat!

An amazing revelation for me was to front in SS uniform after 9 years off and aged .... well just a tad younger that the legend SCSA and still cut the mustard with the crew.

Techique is very important BUT as LM says core strength and a moderate degree of fitness will see you through the ages.

Moderation ... say no to excess and staying happy and relaxed will see you through to a very long life of whatever you choose.

Oz [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #72 of 79
Remember how I bragged about how strong my throwing arm is at 53? Well, I took my son to a batting cage place and swung at 60 mph pitches for about 20 minutes yesterday - and actually hit a few of them. Today, I can't move a muscle!

You know what the worst thing about getting older is? Reading glasses! Actually, I personally don't need them: I just toss the paper onto the floor about 6 feet away and then shine a flashlight onto it - no problem!
post #73 of 79
I read all the posts on this thread

One thing missing is that the equipment changes have made the sport easier, and by that I mean less demanding. Ok I don't read about anyone "hucking" from cornices at 50 [ though if Shane McConkey stays health he might ]so age is a factor.

As far as skiers who still have it in their 70's, you can't forget about Stein.

To Kneale: was that Lou Battori who you were refering to ? I took a couple of runs with him this past spring at Crystal. His form and control are amazing. He mostly skis the groomed and is planning to continue his summer time routine of riding around the Glen Lakes at least 4 times a week. That's about 18 miles. He told me he does these two sports because it gets him out doors which he loves. He doesn't view the cycling as cross over training for skiing. He looks a both sports from onlyn their seasonal perspective.
post #74 of 79

Equipment? Making it "easier"?

Not For me, NO!

Think to Todd M's post on the euro-carvers and "G-junkies". Well, that is how I, and most of my ski buddies, take on a day on the slopes.

We go as hard and as long as we can, and so far, the runs and the days are still ahead!

I can't top to bottom my favorite slopes at the performance level I "want to" And If I could, I would up the level. After about two in the afternoon, if we have been at it all day, We take a couple cruisers between the tough stuff to rest our legs. The lateest skis might help, but we go hard anyway.
The drive home is when we rest.

Perhaps I should move to the midwest????

Signed, the over 50 guys.

post #75 of 79
At what age does skiing ability decline?

That's easy. It would be my age --- which conveniently provides me with a moving target.

Fits with that famous old adage "things can always get worse." :
post #76 of 79
Hey Rusty,

You don't look 47 to me! Whatever you're drinkin or smokin, pass it this way, would ya!

Best of luck with the marathon, way to go!
post #77 of 79
I was wondering if anyone saw this on The Today show the other morning.
There was a study done on fittness in the early 60's The Dr's who did the study took a group of Collage kids not athletes but of avarage fittness for 20 year olds and had them rest and stay in bed for over three weeks.Of couse fittness and the health of the heart went to hell.From that study Dr's got the Idea that people recovering form a Heart attack should'nt just lay in bed to recover That they should be put on an exercise routine to speed up recovery.Before that study Dr's said you take your heart was weak so It needed rest and you might never have a full life after a Heart Attack.
Ok it's 30 some years later The same group of men are found all now in late 50's some had not kept in vary good shape over the years. They Took this same group and started them on a program of exercise and in 6 months had them back to a fittness level they Had in thier 20's!So with some help from Lisamarie and others like her some of us just might be able ski like the young studs we all wish we were
post #78 of 79

I've got to weigh in on this subject. My mid-life crisis involved, but was not limited to, fulfilling some childhood dreams, one of which was ski patrol. Just by sheer coincidence, I met the local OEC instructor in line at the local donut shop. One thing led to another, I just followed the lead, took the course, passed the various tests (probably just barely) and found myself a ski patroller at age 52. Believe me, I had to ramp up the skiing abilities big time in a short time. I just finished my 2nd season as a vollie patroller and I state that my ski skills improved by orders of magnitude over the last 2 seasons. I'm 53 and of course I notice that my injuries take a little longer to heal, my top end is lower, perhaps, it might take me longer to get in shape for a running race, but I pay closer attention to my health and fitness, now that I have to work for it.

Utah, I saw that clip on the Today show. The fact that those guys could come back is very cool.

A friend of mine was about 80 lbs overweight, age 59, absolutely no physical fitness, did not have a sport in any season, ate crappy food. Well, he just took a hit and is lying in cardiac care with 10% of his cardiac function remaining. He will likely not ever leave the hospital unless he gets a transplant or artificial heart. Very sad.
post #79 of 79
Well ... Turned 50 and started skiing. By end of season I was able to do Hard Blacks, powder, & blue bumps in most snow conditions.

My fear; is to make sure I get enough experence to keep from huring myself (Some wisdom comes with age). Skied Northen California & Utah. Looking froward to next year.

Conditioning makes a big difference. Rode bike, roller bladed, balancing exercies & did weights last summer. It made all the difference. I also spent some time on a artifical ski deck during the summer to hone the techique. I'm still over weight but within one year I was able to out ski my brother who has been skiing for 28years. Towards the end of the year I was starting to feal it in my left knee (Old High School Football injury).

On the balancing, you can do it just about anywhere. I love doing it in the checkout line at the supermarket. Five wasted minutes reclaimed.
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