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What did I just buy? (vintage ebay ski)

post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
What are these?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=120080841455

"Holiday" skis with "Conquer" bindings. They look nearly new -- destined for wall decoration.

Google didn't produce any info on these skis. Anyone know what they are?
post #2 of 19
that would make a kick ass shot ski
post #3 of 19
Don't know about the history of that company, but the vintage is quite correct.

Those are the old "over the top" (forward release only), bindings; there was no protection from twisting falls hence the high rate of spiral fractures, back then.

If you flip up the "tab" at the front of the binding, you will probably find a series of color coded beads ..... white, blue and red!

Those were our "DIN" settings back then .... "do it yourself" ... white was novice, blue/intermediate and red/expert.

There should be a leather safety strap from the ski that wrapped around, or a simple one that clipped to the boot. They were fun!

When (and if), you did release in a header .... you now had a windmilling ski flailing about trying to take off as many significant body parts as it could .... kinda' like jumping into a blender set to "high"

Gawd .... I miss the good ol' days!
post #4 of 19
Put modern bindings on them and ski'em they look hot! Congrats!
post #5 of 19
Note that the edges are screwed on. If they are screwed on in small segments, that would be a "cracked" edge .... in theory, it gave the ski the ability to "snake" over the snow giving greater contact.

Base is grooved ... for 'directional stability" and to release suction ... sure don't see that "feature" any more.

Those puppies look to be in almost new condition .... a rare find!
post #6 of 19
Cool. In those years there were many small companies. Places like Sears and Montgomery/Ward sold skis.
post #7 of 19
I've got two pair of similar vintage. Mine are Cambridge Innsbrucks. Black lacquer tops. Beartrap bindings. We live in a new neighborhood but the next area over was built in the early 70's as a retirement community. Lots of older folks still live there. One day I'm driving through and there's an old house with a big pile of trash sitting by the curb. As I go by I spot what looks like a ski pole sticking out of the pile. When I stop I find two pair of skis in absolutely new condition. Each ski had two small holes drilled in it to mount to the wall, otherwise perfect. Deeper in the pile are two sets of bamboo/leather ski poles also in like new condition. My wife no longer complains when I slow down passing trash piles. I've seen similar to yours in much worse condition in antique shops for a couple hundred dollars. Nice find.
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by Yuki View Post
Note that the edges are screwed on. If they are screwed on in small segments, that would be a "cracked" edge .... in theory, it gave the ski the ability to "snake" over the snow giving greater contact.

Base is grooved ... for 'directional stability" and to release suction ... sure don't see that "feature" any more.
I noticed the screwed-on edges too. Cool old feature.

Re: base groove -- some XC skis still have that. I have a pair of Fischer Boundless Crowns from 2 years ago (fish-scale kick pattern) with that central groove. I don't know what that groove really does, except make it harder to scrape wax.
post #9 of 19
Hmm. Those look to me like standard-issue cheap skis from the era identified in the listing (early to mid-60s). I don't know what made the seller think they could be Northland or Lund "under the top sheets." The fact they have "Made in Japan" stickers most likely means that they were ... made in Japan. This, of course, was in the days when that was an admission, rather than a boast.

Most likely these were cheaply produced skis which were either (i) branded with some randomly-chosen "American" sounding name by the Japanese maker or (ii) branded by a store or small distributor in the US. The listing suggests the latter. They'd most likely be the sort of ski that was sold, more on price than anything else, to someone who wandered into a ski or sporting-good shop (or, as mentioned, a general retailer, or maybe even a Sears catalog), never having skied before. In modern terms, kind of like the guy who walks out of a big-box retailer with an old or strange model K2 ski in a ski tote.

The good news is they do look to be in very nice condition. The guy who wandered into the shop in 1963 probably discovered skiing wasn't quite as easy as it looked on TV. Since you're not going to ski on them (I'm reasonably certain the bindings are off the indemnification list), that's all you care about anyway.

Minor points:
- I can't tell for sure from the photo, but those may be releasing toepieces. Whether and when they'd release would be a bit of crapshoot, by modern standards, though. It looks like a design that depends on forward pressure, kind of like the old Marker toepieces of that vintage. When you get your hands on them, how they work may be more obvious ... though I suppose you don't really care too much about that.
- Actually, whether the heels release is highly questionable. I had cable bindings as a quite young person, and I don't remember the heels ever releasing, or even being releasable. Maybe some were.
- The screw-on edge wasn't quite the same thing as a "cracked" edge. The latter was a feature; the former was just a sign of low-cost skis. Especially when they started shedding edge segments on the hill, as once happened to my little sister (she had the good fortune of getting my hand-me-downs).
- I must be older than I thought I was. I still have a vague sense that skis "normally" have grooves, and it's just recently that they've stopped making them that way....
post #10 of 19
Those were state-of-the-art bindings. Note the metal anti-friction plate under the toe....vary rare back then. My first skis were purchased at Sears in 1965 and had the same base & edges. All skis back then had a very pronounced groove.
post #11 of 19
There were grooves in ski bases up to around the late 80's I believe. I do remember a few skis (Hart Honeycomb) that did not have grooves. I waxed a pair of 205cm SL once and forgot to scrape the groove out. Squirrelly as hell.
post #12 of 19
These Skis Were Sold At Local Minnesota "holiday" Gas Stations Back In The ,i Believe Mid To Late Sixties. This Particular Ski Was Just Talked About By A Good Friend Of Mine This Past Weekend As The First Skis He Learned On. So This Is Quite Interesting To See On Here!!!! I Am Going To Amail Him This Thread So He Can Get A Good Shot At The Picture From Ebay!
post #13 of 19
Thread Starter 
Sweet.... gas station skis.

Reaper, if your friend wants better pics than the ebay ones, PM me -- I'll take pics when they arrive and email them to you/him.
post #14 of 19
I wonder how many Green Stamps you had to save up to score those back in the day?

The gas stations around here don't sell skis, that's for sure. Do truck stops in ski resort areas sell skis?
post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by REAPER 51 View Post
These Skis Were Sold At Local Minnesota "holiday" Gas Stations Back In The ,i Believe Mid To Late Sixties. This Particular Ski Was Just Talked About By A Good Friend Of Mine This Past Weekend As The First Skis He Learned On. So This Is Quite Interesting To See On Here!!!! I Am Going To Amail Him This Thread So He Can Get A Good Shot At The Picture From Ebay!
God, that is so funny! I looked at the eBay listed before reading the thread and my first thought was 'Geeez, that looks a lot like the old Holiday gas station logo." I knew that you could buy water skis at Holiday stores, but I didn't remember them carrying downhill skis. Great score, El
post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by dookey67 View Post
The gas stations around here don't sell skis, that's for sure. Do truck stops in ski resort areas sell skis?
There's a gas station on the highway between Bozeman and Bridger Bowl that had rental skis and boards until 2006.
post #17 of 19
Those toe pieces do look very similar to bindings that Northland was selling in the mid 60's. I don't know who was actually producing the bindings for them. Believe it or not, those actually are "safety release" toepieces. The toe pieces are a similar design to the Marker toe pices being sold at that time. There is a spring-loaded ball bearing in there that fits with adjustable pressure against a recess in the top piece. I'm sure they did release occasionally and may have prevented a broken leg or two. These could have been Northland/Lunds. They had factories in St. Paul Minnesota and Laconia New Hampshire. I think they may also have had an arrangement with a factory elsewhere to produce some of their skis. I know that when Head metal skis begin making an impact in the market that Northland tried unsucessfuly to introduce their own line of metal skis and I don't think those were made by them. Incidently, Northland/Lund also made water skis and hockey sticks.
post #18 of 19
i should clarify the Holiday gas station thing. Holiday stores were the Gander Mountain, Cabela's, or Dick's Sporting goods stores of the day. They had almost every outdoor sport item you could think of Guns, camping equip., football, baseball, hocky skates, you name it but also had gas pumps. In I believe the the late seventies they shifted more towards a mix with convenience store/sporting goods and have gone specifically to convenience today. they are now operating fuel pumps with fuels from one of the local refineries.
post #19 of 19
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Originally Posted by Yuki View Post

There should be a leather safety strap from the ski that wrapped around, or a simple one that clipped to the boot. They were fun!

When (and if), you did release in a header .... you now had a windmilling ski flailing about trying to take off as many significant body parts as it could .... kinda' like jumping into a blender set to "high"

Gawd .... I miss the good ol' days!
I had a similar ski as a kid. Those leather straps broke...alot :
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