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post #61 of 139
Bummer Phil, I hope the repair is minor and down time minimal. Come on over to Seven Springs on Feb. 18. You only need one leg to ski the groomers there.
post #62 of 139
Sorry to hear the news, let's hope for the best.

Did you have trouble weighting/edging with the leg after it happened?
post #63 of 139
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.... Patients are usually on significant activity restrictions for a minimum of 3 months after surgery to allow for maturation of the healing process.
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Am I reading that right? 3 full 30 or 31 day MONTHS on snowblades?
post #64 of 139
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Did you have trouble weighting/edging with the leg after it happened?
I had a couple of instances where the ski just came out from under me...at that point, I knew something was wrong.
post #65 of 139
Bummer. Were you wearing a helmet? :
Get well soon.
post #66 of 139
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Bummer. Were you wearing a helmet? :
Get well soon.
I was wearing a helmet, but not knee pads.
post #67 of 139
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I had a couple of instances where the ski just came out from under me...at that point, I knew something was wrong.
Meniscus is the cartilage between the upper and lower leg bones, I think. Doesn't the loss of stability indicate some ligament damage? I don't have any first hand knowledge of knee injuries, knock on wood, so I don't know, just wondering. I hope it's minor, whatever it is. It seems to me ligaments are easier to repair, but hopefully, you won't need any surgery or only a little cleaning.
post #68 of 139
Can you squat down and stand back up? Reason for asking, years back I fell skiing and my knee swelled and walking and climbing stairs was very painful. I thought I tore ligaments. I went to the doctor and I could squat down and stand back up and he ruled out ligament damage. I had a badly bruised knee. I was very lucky and I hope you receive good news as well.
post #69 of 139
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I was wearing a helmet, but not knee pads.
I attended a telemark clinic this weekend and the examiner wore pads and recommended them to us, most of whom had given them up with leather boots and 70/50/60 210s. He had smashed his patella on a rock, it can happen to the best of us. Unfortunately the pads don't protect much the insides of the knee.
post #70 of 139
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Can you squat down and stand back up? Reason for asking, years back I fell skiing and my knee swelled and walking and climbing stairs was very painful. I thought I tore ligaments. I went to the doctor and I could squat down and stand back up and he ruled out ligament damage. I had a badly bruised knee. I was very lucky and I hope you receive good news as well.
As long as I flex forward, I am fine. In fact I can put all my weight in the leg and flex. It is when I put lateral stress is when it gives.
post #71 of 139
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You are so wrong. Think of the extra hours available for gear acquisition!

Feel better Phil...
Ebay is 24/7

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Heal boy, heal!



woof.
ROFLMAO

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For cryin out loud Phil, this is awful. I don't want to sound self-centered, but how is this going to affect my season? Phil, you are the glue that holds the Philfest together.

I'd like to suggest that you wait until after the season for treatment. Take it easy on your first run. Elevate on the chair!
I was thinking the same thing!!!!:

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Philfest will still happen, even if I am there just to MC .
OMG! Phil with nothing to do but talk!

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If you MC, I'll keep you hydrated !!!!!!!
OMG, Phil with nothing to do but DRINK and talk!
post #72 of 139
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As long as I flex forward, I am fine. In fact I can put all my weight in the leg and flex. It is when I put lateral stress is when it gives.
Almost identical to mine. If I keep my weight forward I'm fine. But when I put the weight to the rear the knee buckled. It's better now (can put the foot down flat without too much trouble), but even slight lateral movements and twisting still produce instability. Doctor moved the knee around and said he couldn't feel a hard stop when pulling, making him suspect it's an ACL tear. But since I have almost no swelling, it may be only partial.
post #73 of 139
Best wishes for you, Phil! Here's to a speedy recovery.
post #74 of 139
Get better soon Phil! This epic-demic must end!
post #75 of 139
Or...maybe this is just a ploy to avoid his agreed to Blue Mountain day. I'm going to be more than a bit suspicious if he is ready to ski in mid March, right after Blue closes.
post #76 of 139
No kidding, a "black cloud season" for some Bears.

But with Phil it makes me feel especially ...

Blue

Sorry ol' chap, someone had to say it up front.

Heal fast!
post #77 of 139
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Or...maybe this is just a ploy to avoid his agreed to Blue Mountain day. I'm going to be more than a bit suspicious if he is ready to ski in mid March, right after Blue closes.
I'm sooooooooooo ashamed of myself that I didn't think of this before you did! What was I thinking! You are soooooo smart.
By the way........how are the new skis?
post #78 of 139
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By the way........how are the new skis?
Hopefully, on their way here.
post #79 of 139
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You can't prove nuthin.
post #80 of 139
Sacre bleu! How can you think that trekchick? The poor guy blew out his knee! Have you no empathy woman?

post #81 of 139
Oh man, it sucks. Hope you wil get well soon.

And what's up with all the injuries with the elite skiers here this season ?
post #82 of 139
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Sacre bleu! How can you think that trekchick? The poor guy blew out his knee! Have you no empathy woman?




Moi?:
post #83 of 139
You know, these come in blue



(Powerslide Kevlar Kniestrumpf)
post #84 of 139
feel better soon, Phil
post #85 of 139
Get well soon.
Your Krypton's must be really bummed that they may be off the hill for awhile. Keep them in a conspicuous place so they won't be lonely.
post #86 of 139
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Meniscus is the cartilage between the upper and lower leg bones, I think.
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Doesn't the loss of stability indicate some ligament damage?
Usually
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I don't have any first hand knowledge of knee injuries, knock on wood, so I don't know, just wondering. I hope it's minor, whatever it is. It seems to me ligaments are easier to repair, but hopefully, you won't need any surgery or only a little cleaning.
Definitely not if it's a full tear, partial tears can be treated with physical therapy. Maniscus damage can be treated with Physical therapy also, tightening up the muscles will keep movement down on the tear, but even surgery on the meniscus is minor, with return to full activity in as little as a week.
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But since I have almost no swelling, it may be only partial.
completely opposite, if the ACL completely tears without other damage, there's nothing to tell the body to swell up, and all you'll see is instability in the knee. It's the other damage on a full tear, (ie. Meniscus damage or partial MCL or LCL tear) that usually accompanies the ACL tear, that causes the swelling. On a partial tear of the ACL, there will be swelling.
Hopefully it was just the impact that caused the damage. in which case it could be something bruised, like the bursar sac.
I bruised my bursar sac once when skiing out of bounds, went over a mound that turned out to be a boulder. The skis stopped and I released from the heal and kneeled onto that boulder. I was back skiing in 3 weeks. Amazingly, although I thought she was a quack, two weeks after I got hurt, I got a free treatment from a friend of a friend who stayed at our ski house and was a massage therapist specializing in post-injury healing. I went from totally limping, to walking up stairs normally, after only a 1 hour massage to the leg. I skied the following weekend.
post #87 of 139
Injuries are a major drag and in the beginning when diagnosis, treatment and recovery time are up in the air, ughh.

Here's to a speedy recovery and pass the single malt!

Keep your spirits high Phil, and please don't "over-moderate" me again.
post #88 of 139
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I was back skiing in 3 weeks. Amazingly, although I thought she was a quack, two weeks after I got hurt, I got a free treatment from a friend of a friend who stayed at our ski house and was a massage therapist specializing in post-injury healing. I went from totally limping, to walking up stairs normally, after only a 1 hour massage to the leg. I skied the following weekend.
I have almost the same story except the injury was against the edge of a swimming pool. Swam a meet 2 weeks later.
post #89 of 139
PHIL! SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!!!! :

I'm sorry to hear this. My knee injury way-back-when was meniscus damage, darn thing looked like a chicken bone that had been shredded by a knife. But, I had a very quick recovery after arthroscopic surgery. My doc had me doing leg lifts as soon as I came out of the haze post-surgery. He asked, "Can you hear me?" I said, "Yes." He said, "Good, start doing 10 leg lifts every half hour to an hour from now on." I started working with a physical therapist that same week. Within a few weeks, I was pretty much back to normal. Ski season was over, but I had no problems doing inline skating, biking and hiking for cross-training.

So, hopefully your recovery will be QUICK and you'll get some on-snow time in March. Let the doctor and the physical therapist know that you want to recover as quickly as you are physically able, that you aren't interested in "being a couch potato."

YOU ARE AN ATHLETE, A FINELY TUNED MACHINE, AND YOU WANT TO ACT LIKE ONE!!!!!

Thatsagirl
post #90 of 139
I can't believe what I'm reading. I'm so sorry this happened to you Phil. There's definitely some bad karma running through our "community" this season.

We need someone with a good plan for getting our mojo back.
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