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post #31 of 139
1/30/07 at 7:51am
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Looks like it is the meniscus. I have an MRI on Thursday and another visit to the Ortho on Tuesday. He is 90+ percent sure that that is what it is. Now depending on how severe if I have to go in for an arthoscopic surgery at that point.

He says my season might not be done, but I will have to take it easy. Looks like I will be taking (at least) Febuary off though.
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post #32 of 139
1/30/07 at 8:10am
Phil....Bummer news! Hope it turns out to be the least of all posibilities.

"Bonni- It don't hurt till the bone shows. "

Sometimes, not even then!!!
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post #33 of 139
1/30/07 at 8:33am
real sorry to hear that, phil.

Kevin
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post #34 of 139
1/30/07 at 8:42am
Ahh - too bad! Sounds like it could have been worse though. Well this'll give some more time for snowfall to build some base around here - maybe you can get back in March (usually the best month in NE IMO anyway)

Isn't it strange that a thin snow year would lead to so many injuries ....
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post #35 of 139
1/30/07 at 8:46am
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this is what scares me...

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Although the meniscal repair is performed arthroscopically as an outpatient, the recovery is longer because the incisions are often larger then the standard incisions used for arthroscopic removal of a torn meniscus. Since healing must occur, the physical therapy must be slower and more cautious, most patients remain on crutches for several weeks, and complete healing may take several months. Unfortunately, although it is technically possible to repair a torn meniscus, repair of the tear does not mean the healing will always occur. Your physician has no control over the body's ability to heal a tear. Therefore, if healing does not occur, the arthroscopic procedure will need to be repeated. Patients are usually on significant activity restrictions for a minimum of 3 months after surgery to allow for maturation of the healing process.
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post #36 of 139
1/30/07 at 8:47am
Sorry to hear, Phil

Heal quickly....
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post #37 of 139
1/30/07 at 8:55am
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Originally Posted by Cirquerider View Post
Everyone hopes this is nothing. I mean if you were hurt and couldn't ski, you'd have nothign to do but....moderate :
You are so wrong. Think of the extra hours available for gear acquisition!

Feel better Phil...
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post #38 of 139
1/30/07 at 9:00am
phil check out this chart:

http://www.webmd.com/hw/health_guide...?navbar=uh2064

and here's more on it..

http://www.webmd.com/hw/joint_problems/uh2064.asp


Uncomplicated partial meniscectomy
Meniscus repair surgery
Weight bearingAs toleratedWith a braceTime on crutches2 to 7 days 4 to 6 weeksDriving, if the affected leg is to be used for gas/brake or clutch1 to 2 weeks, if you have regained motion with minimal pain and you are not taking narcotics
4 to 6 weeks Regain full range of motion1 to 2 weeks4 to 6 weeks (motion is generally limited to 90 degrees for first 4 to 6 weeks to allow meniscus to heal)Return to heavy work or sports4 to 6 weeks, if you have regained motion and strength and your knee is not swollen or painful
3 to 6 months

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post #39 of 139
1/30/07 at 9:10am

Good luck, Phil

I hope it turns out to be a small injury that heals quickly.
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post #40 of 139
1/30/07 at 9:20am
Sorry to hear that.

If it's any consolation, my uncle had arthroscopic meniscus repair in early December, followed by PT, and was skiing in VT in three weeks. He just got back from a week of first-to-last-chair skiing at Deer Valley. Some days, his apres ski activity is an ice pack with his scotch, but he's real happy to ski so soon. (He's in his 60s.)

Here's wishing a speedy recovery.
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post #41 of 139
1/30/07 at 9:31am
Oh, Phil! I am so sorry. Let us know what you learn from the MRI and what happens next... I have you on my calendar for Steamboat, so you have to heal up quickly! :
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post #42 of 139
1/30/07 at 9:34am
Phil,

On the serious side, don't freak yourself out. Each tear is different.

I had surgery on Sept. 29th for my meniscus tear. I hobbled with a walker for a couple days, then it got much better the next week. By the end of 3 weeks, good as new. Range of Motion was never weakened at all, and I didn't need physical therapy.

You could be just as lucky. I'm crossing fingers, hands, arms, legs, feet and toes for you.
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post #43 of 139
1/30/07 at 9:39am
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I appreciate the kind words Bonni. I am counting on the fact that I have never had any knee issues before even after skiing oodles of moguls. I am planning for the worst...hoping for the best.
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post #44 of 139
1/30/07 at 9:43am
Good luck with the injury, and hope you heal fast! My MRI is today --hopefully should know how bad it is by the end of the week. We need a Gimp section this season.
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post #45 of 139
1/30/07 at 9:48am
Good luck, Faisasy! Your fellow Gimps are rooting for you!
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post #46 of 139
1/30/07 at 9:52am
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Originally Posted by Bonni View Post
Phil,

On the serious side, don't freak yourself out. Each tear is different.

I had surgery on Sept. 29th for my meniscus tear. I hobbled with a walker for a couple days, then it got much better the next week. By the end of 3 weeks, good as new. Range of Motion was never weakened at all, and I didn't need physical therapy.

You could be just as lucky. I'm crossing fingers, hands, arms, legs, feet and toes for you.
Honey, crossing your legs is going to hurt:

Phil heal!

There, next case??
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post #47 of 139
1/30/07 at 10:44am

Three track???

Well, Phil, as everyone else has said, major Bummer!:

Years ago, a guy I knew slammed his knee into a gate and rendered it useless for a while. I don't know the exact nature of his injury, though.

Anyway, he was skiing again in a week - on one ski and two outriggers. Know anyplace where you can borrow some 'riggers? Just don't catch the extra foot on anything!
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post #48 of 139
1/30/07 at 10:57am
Well, bummer, Phil. Truly sorry to hear about another injured Bear. Take care of it, and yourself, and get back as soon as you can. Here's hoping for a speedy and full recovery!

Best regards,
Bob
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post #49 of 139
1/30/07 at 11:03am
Bonni is right. Everyones injuries and healing time are different. I started to freak out reading page after page of different experiences and procedures some good some bad. It will all fall into place and you will be fine.

The meds do give a pleasant feeling.
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post #50 of 139
1/30/07 at 11:16am
It must have been the gear!!!!! Time to sell it all off and start again.

Really, sorry to hear about your injury--good luck and keep us posted.
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post #51 of 139
1/30/07 at 11:18am
Good luck Phil! Next year's going to be a really good year...
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post #52 of 139
1/30/07 at 12:20pm
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Yep. Me.

At Kton, my son and I were poaching some woods, we were skiing the Mountain Biking trail map . Our second run down and near the bottom where I could see the cross trail that we would merge with....BAM. Left ski was off and my knee was slammed into the ground. At that point a "yelp" escaped my mouth. My knee felt real warm as I sat there. I got up and started shaking it loose to get some of the pain out. I was able to stand on that leg so I am suspecting that it is not my ACL. I got my skis back on and skied down to the Gondie. Ty and I took a few more runs (4 or so), but there was two times when I hit some ice that my left ski just came out from under me and I went down.

I will go see the ortho that Lola say for her knee. Me thinks it is the MCL or meniscus. I hope MY season isn't done too.

I will post updates when I know.
Phil, I can't tell from your description if you had a premature ejection. Should your ski have stayed on when you hit that trail? With all of the recent injuries to Bears I have been rethinking my settings. I have backed off on the toes, but I still keep the heels fairly high to avoid surprise ejections. (Like Utah49 I refuse to lower my settings to reflect my age. I ski just as fast as I did when younger).

Hopefully you will have a quick recovery. I did a bucket handle tear at work one spring, rode my exercise bike and did leg weights right up to surgery and was back on the exercise bike a few days afterwards. I was out on the road bike within 2 weeks. Is it a medial meniscus? Good luck, but I hope you err on the side of caution. Too many years left to rush back, especially in such a lousy snow year in the East. ONTH, when are you going to make it to one of the "Let's go Colorado" gatherings? Maybe you will have to think about returning to A-Basin with the infamous sweater come April. My best to ya, LewBob
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post #53 of 139
1/30/07 at 12:23pm
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Phil, I can't tell from your description if you had a premature ejection. Should your ski have stayed on when you hit that trail?

My best to ya, LewBob
I have the bindings set close to 11. So I don't think it was a pre release. Plus, it was a twising fall, I had to re cock the heels to get back in.
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post #54 of 139
1/30/07 at 12:40pm
Heal boy, heal!



woof.
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post #55 of 139
1/30/07 at 12:50pm
For cryin out loud Phil, this is awful. I don't want to sound self-centered, but how is this going to affect my season? Phil, you are the glue that holds the Philfest together.

I'd like to suggest that you wait until after the season for treatment. Take it easy on your first run. Elevate on the chair!
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post #56 of 139
1/30/07 at 12:53pm
I had a Killington induced meniscus tear to compound my already torn ligament. I skied the weekend before surgery (same season) with the only issue being not able to turn right. But thats another story. I HOPE rehab is ALL you need, but my experience after surgery included significant swelling and a lengthy rehab. BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT, you've skied with me and all is working MUCH better now.

I wish you a NON-SURGICAL and quick recovery.

Falcon_O - Charlie
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post #57 of 139
1/30/07 at 12:54pm
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For cryin out loud Phil, this is awful. I don't want to sound self-centered, but how is this going to affect my season? Phil, you are the glue that holds the Philfest together.
Philfest will still happen, even if I am there just to MC .
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post #58 of 139
1/30/07 at 12:56pm
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Philfest will still happen, even if I am there just to MC .
If you MC, I'll keep you hydrated !!!!!!!
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post #59 of 139
1/30/07 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by falcon_o View Post
If you MC, I'll keep you hydrated !!!!!!!
Single malt?
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post #60 of 139
1/30/07 at 1:06pm
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post
Single malt?
Single, double, triple - whatever necessary to keep the swelling in check !!!
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