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Enough of the figures!

post #1 of 33
Thread Starter 
Like last year we have a few threads going about how fast or how much vertical you've done.

Does it really matter?
post #2 of 33
My home hill has about 430 vertical feet.

I make about 30-40 runs in a day.

Does that count, even though you can get from top to bottom in about 45 seconds?

What IS the point?
post #3 of 33
All those things are of the utmost importance to me. As all of you know, I talk a lot of trash. Figures are what back me up. Figures are my friend. Figures are my vindication.
post #4 of 33
Skiing for me is about having fun and forgetting about all the anal retentive things we deal with in our careers and urban lifestyle. I couldn't imagine going to a beach resort and keeping constant tally of the temperatures, relative humidity, time of sun exposure and SPF factor, so why would you complicate your ski vacation? Relax, enjoy yourself... no worries, mahn.
post #5 of 33
Quote:
Originally posted by Wear the fox hat:
Like last year we have a few threads going about how fast or how much vertical you've done.

Does it really matter?
Yes...............but now that I know.............no. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
post #6 of 33
I've looked long and hard, slept on it briefly, and even shared with friends. This may be the first poll that has no FLAWS. I know, I'm supprised too...

Since it doesn't appear to have any flaws, there inlies the flaw. Hehe...

While you seem to have all the great statistics about how great of a skier you are, you do seem to be standing around alot looking at them. How about going out and skiing?

EDIT: Messed up the bolds, twice.

[ January 02, 2003, 07:24 AM: Message edited by: AltaSkier ]
post #7 of 33
Woof. Barkity bark bark.



"Lottadoggy," by JamesDeluxe

[ January 02, 2003, 07:46 AM: Message edited by: ryan ]
post #8 of 33
Thread Starter 
sorry, ryan, you lost me on that one!
:

S
post #9 of 33
(wouldn't stress about it too much, Stewbug; nothin' to get, really.)

wouldn't stress too much 'bout the speed'n'vert, neither; we all gots differ'nt styles o' fun and games, don't we? one man's ceiling, another man's floor, etc. you say toMAYto, i say toMAHto. i DO like to spend more time on the hill than in liftlines, but that's just me.

i keep a semi-journal of my ski days; some would say that's anal. honestly, i've yet to stop and wonder how much "vert" i've gotten on a particular day; it just hasn't occurred to me. on the other hand, if a skier i was with HAD been keeping track and knew the figures, sure, i'd be curious.

[ January 02, 2003, 08:04 AM: Message edited by: ryan ]
post #10 of 33
Thread Starter 
Do I look like I'm stressing out? :

I had to stop tearing my hair out earlier, cause there was none left!

Now, let people get back to voint on my first pointless poll in a long time.



S
post #11 of 33
Fox,

I spoke to your poll and voted in it. Maybe YOU should let the voting continue. (And, to answer your question, a BIT of stress IS peeking through, yes.)

EDIT: besides, if i don't keep it bumped to the top, who will?
(the rhetorical question of all time.)

and a LAST rhetorical question, still to the point of your poll...
*Being a skier unconcerned with such things as speed, would you make a point to look AWAY from a speed indicator on a hill that would show you how fast/slow you were skiing?

and Fox, you get the Sport of the (very new) Year Award for tolerating my obnoxious intrusion into your thread. i shall remove myself henceforth. all else, VOTE NOW ON FOXLET'S THREAD.

[ January 02, 2003, 08:37 AM: Message edited by: ryan ]
post #12 of 33
I've have a few friends who used to be obsessed with counting vert. When they first moved to Utah, you'd hear stats daily. Gradually they realized that the numbers meant nothing because you're spending so much time traversing or hiking to get to the good stuff, your effort isn't measured by the vert count. You could ski groomers all day and have more vert, but it certainly wouldn't be more fun, more effort, or more challenging.

It would be interesting to know how fast I ski, but I wouldn't go out of my way to figure it out.
post #13 of 33
More Vert = X = More time on the snow.
More time on the snow = Y = better skier.
X=Y
Better skier = Z = Goal.

Similarly, X=Z.

After all, isn't that the POINT?

That is all.
post #14 of 33
Thread Starter 
EPSki,
Your first equation is only true under certain circumstances!

Quote:
Originally posted by EPSkis:
More Vert = X = More time on the snow.
This is true if you compare skier A travelling at 50km/h down a run of 1km vertical, with a skier travelling down a shorter run at the same speed or faster.
Skier B comes along and covers 800m of vertical at 30km/h.
Skier A will complete 1 km of vertical in 1.2 minutes
Skier B will complete 800m of vertical in 1.6 minutes
1.6 > 1.2 therefore skier B will have spent more time on the snow, while skier A has covered more vertical.
The point could also be argued from the angle of the slopes as well, so both skiers could ski at the same speed, but one on a more gentle slope will spend more time on the snow.

S
post #15 of 33
Thread Starter 
ryan,
don't go, please. I like having people around here who can get down to my level. There are too many smart people around, and not enough thickos like you and me.



S
post #16 of 33
if a train going !!!
omygod, what am I saying!!!
post #17 of 33
Thread Starter 
Ryel,
Sorry, I live in England. I don't understand this thing about trains going anywhere. Can you please explain further?



S
post #18 of 33
Quote:
Originally posted by Wear the fox hat:
Ryel,
Sorry, I live in England. I don't understand this thing about trains going anywhere. Can you please explain further?



S
"If train going...." is how all of of our 9th grade algebra word problems began. I'm sure plenty of others have as many nightmares about them as I do.
post #19 of 33
Thread Starter 
MM,
It's similar over here, but I'm making a political comment about the state of the English rail network. GWB's brain probably works better than Silverlink Trains (my local trains)



S
post #20 of 33
Anyone up for a game of Mornington Crescent? [img]graemlins/evilgrin.gif[/img]
post #21 of 33
What train? *Looks around* What..... train? Oh, never mind. It's still new year's break.
post #22 of 33
I am an info junkie so once a question is asked it gnaws at me till I have an answer. I suspect my tag line answers the vert question. I do not have an answer to the speed question.

But, honestly, the only figure that matters to me any more is my wife’s, and what a knockout figure she has. It is hard being an average man married to the world’s most beautiful woman.

Mark
post #23 of 33
Thread Starter 
Aaaaaah,
True love.
Is there anything better, except maybe a mutton, lettuce & tomato sandwich...

S
post #24 of 33
Mutton - blah yuck blah...

Only the English would eat the stuff!

Now a nice bit of LAMB....
post #25 of 33
Thread Starter 
disski,
Please, give me a break!
1. I am NOT English
2. The best lamb is from New Zealand
3. It would be INCONCEIVABLE for you not to know what film I was misquoting.



S
post #26 of 33
WTFH

It is a great movie, one I have watched many times with my daughter. I especially liked Andre the Giant. I wonder if he ever skied?
post #27 of 33
Quote:
Originally posted by Wear the fox hat:

3. It would be INCONCEIVABLE for you not to know what film I was misquoting.



S
My all time favorite!!

"Sonny, true love is the greatest thing in the world; except for a nice MLT - Mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich - when the Mutton is nice and lean, and the tomato's ripe. They're so perky. I love that."
post #28 of 33
"but that's not what he said. He specifically said... 'to blathe,' and as we all know, 'to blathe' means to bluff, so you were probably playing cards, and he cheated."

"Liar! Liarrrrrrr."
post #29 of 33
Thread Starter 
...And all from the same guy who was behind the scariest dentist movie of all time, Marathon Man, and had a hand in the making of Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid.

S

[ January 07, 2003, 02:02 AM: Message edited by: Wear the fox hat ]
post #30 of 33
Miracle Max: Sonny, true love is the greatest thing, in the world-except for a nice MLT - mutton, lettuce and tomato sandwich, where the mutton is lean and the tomato is ripe [smacks his lips] they're so perky, I love that!

I don't understand the need to keep track of how much vert you've done in a day, week, etc. I don't want to stereotype vert junkies, but I know a lot of people who just ride to the top, blaze a trail down as fast as possible, and then just repeat the steps over and over to get in as much vert as they can in a day.

I think that's crazy. Don't get me wrong, I like to take some hot runs during the course of a day, but I think you need to leave time to "stop and smell the roses" so to speak. I spend all week sitting in an office, so when I'm on the mountain I want to enjoy it instead of turning it into a blur.

Just my 2 cents.
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