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Video: Audi driving up ski jumping ramp

post #1 of 18
Thread Starter 
See the following link for some pretty cool footage of the making of an ad for Audi.

http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/...n_Audi_Ad.html
post #2 of 18
I might be off-base here, as I don't speak German, but I don't understand why they pretend to drive up with regular tires, them "switch" to spiked tires...

...because at 2:01 you can see there's a tow-wire covered with snow that is pulling it up the jump.

And at 2:11-2:13 you can see the tow mechanism under the car.

Hmm - I see someone else on that site noticed it, as well. Any German-speakers know if they're trying to pull a fast one here, or if they admit/explain that they just towed it up?
post #3 of 18
Thread Starter 
Yeah there is definitely a cable there but I suspect it was static and that the thing under the car is some sort of one way clamp to stop the car sliding back down the ramp if it lost traction and started sliding back down. As the car is heading up there doesn't seem to be tension on the cable. And the mechanism at the top didn't seem up to a fast tow up the ramp.

The first tyres used were pretty serious winter tyres even though they were not studded.
post #4 of 18
Advertising like this bothers me, even though I like Audis, because it clearly over-represents the capabilities of their cars in typical winter driving conditions. I can't help but assume that the people I see in winter whose cars/SUVs/whatevers are upside down in a ditch or at least banged up from a guardrail have been gradually deceived by ads to think that with the right awd/4wd/quattro/whatever they can let the car worrying about braking, accelerating, and cornering while they drive however they want. A car going up a ski ramp? C'mon....A jeep driving 65 mph up the side of a Himalayan mountain?

Most products I could care less if the ads exaggerate wildly. In this case, the marketing departments are going to far hyping whatever special winter driving features their cars have. Anything but reality about what a car does in averse conditions puts the consumer's safety and my safety (since I share the road with them) on the line.
post #5 of 18
Going from memory here (slow link), I think the point being made is that their 4x4 "system" is like having the spiked tires. The car IS winched up.
post #6 of 18
I was more impressed back in 1965 when Saab did a ski ramp shot with their top rally driver behind the wheel.

They took Eric Carlson to the top of the ramp and then rolled it down sideways.

After the last crash at the bottom, Eric opened the door and got out. Back then, Saab was then only car with an intergal roll cage (Saab 93/95/96 series). No tricks back then.

Wanna save on lift tickets try www.buypinzgauer.com
post #7 of 18
The trick was made in Finland, in city called Lahti. The car WASN´T towed up. the cable was just for precaution measures. The thing is that the ad didn´t want to make you believe that the usual (quattro) car can go up the 140 meter hill, It´s just for spectacular view.
First they thought that the car can go uphill with usual studded tires, but clearly it could not. So they switched to spiked ones and voila!

But you have to admit that´s nice?
post #8 of 18
As the owner of a '99 A4 and '01 S4, I have had more than a little experience with the remarkable qualities of the Quattro system. On roads with a few inches of snow, they are sure footed. The problem with these cars is not absolute traction but clearance. Basically, as the snow builds under the chassis, the magic fades. I have plowed my fare share of roads with Audi sedans. While it is more than a little fun to have snow plume over the hood on a fast romp, even Quattro can not give a car longer legs.
post #9 of 18
I didn't need to watch the AD. I have drove hundreds of German cars being an Auto Transport driver and a few other vehicles in the 30 yrs of trucking. I have slid down 17% grades in the woods covered with Ice backwards and forwards in a frig'n log truck. Either way was not enjoyable. Lose of traction is only a matter of conditions. It's that simple.:
post #10 of 18
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I have slid down 17% grades in the woods covered with Ice backwards and forwards in a frig'n log truck. Either way was not enjoyable. Lose of traction is only a matter of conditions. It's that simple.:
I'd click on that video link.
post #11 of 18
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As the owner of a '99 A4 and '01 S4, I have had more than a little experience with the remarkable qualities of the Quattro system. On roads with a few inches of snow, they are sure footed. The problem with these cars is not absolute traction but clearance. Basically, as the snow builds under the chassis, the magic fades. I have plowed my fare share of roads with Audi sedans. While it is more than a little fun to have snow plume over the hood on a fast romp, even Quattro can not give a car longer legs.
Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. That is a very honest and accurate assesment. I would also like to add the ubiquitous Subaru to this class of vehicles known for traction but lacking in any ground clearance whatsoever. When the snow gets deep, as you said "the magic fades."
post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by comprex View Post
I'd click on that video link.
Proves nothing.: At a certain speed or other conditions, in this case, grade a vehicle will lose traction. I wonder if the car could stop and restart it's accent? Even if the cable is a safety device it takes all the "for sure" out of it. Most drivers don't need to see this kind of subject matter on TV.
post #13 of 18
The tires which they put on the car where dedicated WRC (World Rally Championship for the NASCAR fans ) winter tires and are NOT appoved for use on public roards.
Chances are that if we put these on a 15 year old Subaru it will do just as well climbing up this ramp if not better because its lighter.

I also love Audi, but this ad is just dumb :

Try driving around on a set of these things:
post #14 of 18
It's all relative and sometimes dumb luck. Some years back I bought a Nissan 4X4 truck. Short version of a long story was that the farm I was visiting had the road blocked by a drunk driver (my pals wife).

Me, not drinking, had to get home but with a foot and a half of snow and a blocked road .... buddy says ... we can get out across the frozen farm fields through a break in the trees. He was driving since he knew the fields.

Just like deliberate1 and the Jeep "Trail Rated" commercials, off we went across the fields; deep drifts with the powder blasting over the hood, through gullies for over an hour .... quite a ride!

Next week when the truck went in for some work, my mechanic says .... hey .... you know that you ain't got 4 wheel drive! When he took it apart there were internal parts missing. The damned thing was never working since day one. A few weeks later, we replaced the auto hubs with manual locking ones .... cheaper than the missing Nissan parts.

Had we known that we would have never gone off over the river and through the woods on a night like that!
post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by danimal's dead View Post
Ding, ding, ding, we have a winner. That is a very honest and accurate assesment. I would also like to add the ubiquitous Subaru to this class of vehicles known for traction but lacking in any ground clearance whatsoever. When the snow gets deep, as you said "the magic fades."
get an allroad or a Q7 both have adjustable suspension! 4 levels, jack that baby up with the push of a button!

problem solved!
post #16 of 18
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Originally Posted by OldSchool View Post
I might be off-base here, as I don't speak German, but I don't understand why they pretend to drive up with regular tires, them "switch" to spiked tires...

...because at 2:01 you can see there's a tow-wire covered with snow that is pulling it up the jump.

And at 2:11-2:13 you can see the tow mechanism under the car.

Hmm - I see someone else on that site noticed it, as well. Any German-speakers know if they're trying to pull a fast one here, or if they admit/explain that they just towed it up?
they did not tow it up, the cable was there as a safety backup!
post #17 of 18
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Originally Posted by Spandex Monkey View Post
Try driving around on a set of these things:
Rally drivers say that these tires on ice allow the traction of a tire on dry pavement, and on dry pavement its like driving on ice.

Michael
post #18 of 18
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Originally Posted by Spandex Monkey View Post
Chances are that if we put these on a 15 year old Subaru it will do just as well climbing up this ramp if not better because its lighter.
This is just a 'remake' of an old add Audi add, with an Audi 100 climbing a ski jump back in 1986. So yeah, a 1990 Scooby could surely do it as well.

A dumb ad? No. A fun add.

People who believe Quattro/AWD/4WD makes them invincible however, might be considered dumb.




For more technical info no how the vid was made have a look here: http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm...04/country/gcf The wire is adressed near the bottom, 'safety first'.
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