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post #1 of 16
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Just booked Western trip #2 to Crested Butte to back up my Feb. Utah trip. I'll be with the infamous Skiitroll himself and possibly a few other gapers from 3/23-3/28.

I won 2 3-day lift tickets in a raffle and just found air on Hotwire.com an hour ago from LGA to Gunnison for $239 total!! BAM!!
Friggin' BAM!!

Air is on United and would have cost ~$400 via every other source. No rental car is needed on this trip either. Throw in some cheapass lodging in town and this whole shebang is going to be a dirtbag ski trip of epic proportions.

Never been to the Butte before, but we'll be pumped up for skiing some wicked dirtbag cheapass gnar-gnar! (Just in case anyone was wonderin')
post #2 of 16
I wouldn't be banking on "Epic" just yet...CB has, at present, a 36" base that's 20" less than Alta's current.

Also CB's average snowfall is 243"...roughly equivalent to Killington's yearly avg.

...and BTW, CB's gnar is often closed due to insufficient coverage.

Just being a realist...
post #3 of 16
I have to disagree with you sjcoll. CB doesn't get alot of snow early in the season, and they never have a large base, but headwall, northface, and teocali bowl is already open. The peak and funnel are still closed, but they take much longer to open as there is a huge boulderfield that must be filled in before you can ski it safely. Also, the great thing about CB is that once a run is open, the patrol rarely ever closes it. It doesn't matter if gets tracked out and rocks are poking up all over the place, if you can ski it you're allowed too.

1 more thing... Feb is CB's heaviest snow month Have fun carvemeister, you'll love it! While you're up there be sure to checkout the town of CB as well. The Secret Stash has some of the most unique and tasty pizzas I have ever found. Just make sure you have plenty of time to kill, 2 hour waits are not unheard of.
post #4 of 16
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I wouldn't be banking on "Epic" just yet...CB has, at present, a 36" base that's 20" less than Alta's current.

Also CB's average snowfall is 243"...roughly equivalent to Killington's yearly avg.

...and BTW, CB's gnar is often closed due to insufficient coverage.

Just being a realist...
True. I'm hoping that since CB has received "normal" snowfall so far this year, according to Tony Crocker's site, that it might be enough so that at least some of it will be open. I'm sure it does take more than average snow to open some terrain, but hopefully by 2 full months from now there will be enough new snow to open much of it.

I probably will stay from most of the extreme gnar anyhow. And my use of the word epic was actually intended to relate more to the epicly minimal effect on my wallet compared to the potential for some epicly good skiiing.
post #5 of 16
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I have to disagree with you sjcoll. CB doesn't get alot of snow early in the season, and they never have a large base, but headwall, northface, and teocali bowl is already open. The peak and funnel are still closed, but they take much longer to open as there is a huge boulderfield that must be filled in before you can ski it safely. Also, the great thing about CB is that once a run is open, the patrol rarely ever closes it. It doesn't matter if gets tracked out and rocks are poking up all over the place, if you can ski it you're allowed too.

1 more thing... Feb is CB's heaviest snow month Have fun carvemeister, you'll love it! While you're up there be sure to checkout the town of CB as well. The Secret Stash has some of the most unique and tasty pizzas I have ever found. Just make sure you have plenty of time to kill, 2 hour waits are not unheard of.
I was posting my last reply just as you posted yours. That's what I was hoping to hear!

We will most likely be staying in town, but lodging options are pretty limited those days for a place with one cheap bed per individual male to avoid accidental skin touching during sleep. :

The only place I could find was the Old Town Inn, which looks pretty decent for a very good price. Even the Hostel didn't have 2 beds for that week.
post #6 of 16
That's a great deal on the air. You will have a great time. CB's a really fun mountain and March is there snowiest month.

I am currently in Aspen, 40 miles due north. We also have a 36" base, 20" less than Alta. Our skiing is much better than Alta's right now.
post #7 of 16
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That's a great deal on the air. You will have a great time. CB's a really fun mountain and March is there snowiest month.

I am currently in Aspen, 40 miles due north. We also have a 36" base, 20" less than Alta. Our skiing is much better than Alta's right now.
You're going to make me want to say "BAM" again, if you keep talking like that!
post #8 of 16
I'm headed to Crested Butte the 1st weekend in February. It's my 1st time there. Any tips. I was curious about the snow coverage also. Guess I will find out. I will give post trip report.
post #9 of 16
Nice job on the airfare. I use Hotwire religiously for car rentals and hotels, but never had the balls to try the blind flight itinerary option, where you have no idea when you'll leave/arrive on a given day.
post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by jamesdeluxe View Post
Nice job on the airfare. I use Hotwire religiously for car rentals and hotels, but never had the balls to try the blind flight itinerary option, where you have no idea when you'll leave/arrive on a given day.
Lately, I have found their car rental prices to be even more than the retail prices listed on the other "usual" sites. However, I had used Hotwire for car rentals in the past and did pretty well. I also saved big on hotels once or twice, and then saved nothing a few other times.

I don't usually have the balls to go blind on the airfare either. I Did it once before this and it also worked out well though. It's good to use for some of the much smaller airports, like Gunnison, Jackson Hole, etc. because with limited flights in and out, you can sometimes narrow down which flights you'll be on just by seeing "one connection or nonstop" listed in the search.

My flights to CB and back ended up being a nice 55 minute connection through Denver leaving and 75 minutes returning on United. Times of departure both ways were a little later than I had hoped for (2 PM from LGA and 4 pm ffrom GUC), but I can live with that for $239 compared to the ~$389 minimum found everywhere else.

I check hotwire often, but the difference is not usually that great. This time though it really hit rock bottom.
post #11 of 16
Loco13, how advanced of a skier are you? what do you like to ski?

For high speed groomers, head to Paradise bowl for blues. For blacks, International (Silver Queen lift) is by far my favorite. When it is freshly groomed you can really open it up and let em fly.
Late day powder stashes: hit up the gold link lift. You can find little stashes all over the place.
The trees to skiers left and skiers right of resurrection (East River Lift) are lots of fun. They can get a bit tight but you can almost always find some undisturbed snow in there. If you enter the trees on skiers left, wait till the start of the mogul field on resurrection to enter the trees. The upper half is a maze of tight trees, fallen logs, and all sorts of nastiness. The tree run slopes gently to skiers left, but stay to the right and you'll pop out into a clear section. You'll be able to see the clearing on your right as you ride the lift. Its just above the end of the moguls on resurrection, if you're not looking for it you will miss it. Its short, but the further skiers left you are on it, the nicer the snow. It's also a fun way to see if you are ready to handle steeper terrain. (guesstimate of 30-35 deg for the clearing) After the clearing you go through a short, often skied out, section of trees before dropping onto a cattrack. I recommend not going into the lower section of trees, some parts are fun but it gets narrow and becomes more work than it is worth. important note: do not enter these trees unless you are comfortable skiing a black run with trees on it. ALWAYS take someone with you, if you get hurt in there the chances of being found in a reasonable amount of time are pretty slim.

If that sounds like a bit too much for you, the trees on either side of Mineral Point (Red Lady Express lift) are fairly docile and can be enjoyed by anyone able to ski a blue. If you are coming off the red lady express and are following the cat track towards paradise, just before you go around the right hand turn of the cat, drop to your left for a wide open and easy tree run. It is a great way to introduce someone to skiing in powder and trees, and there is little risk. (except for tree wells)

For short steep sections, start off in paradise bowl. follow the cattrack (Ruby Road) to skiers left (the right if you are unloading from the paradise lift). Just as the trees start, drop in and navigate your way down. There is also a short mogul run on skiers right that is used to test people for the extreme limits tour.(this is NOT the moguls before the trees start) The further along the cattrack you go, the steeper and longer it gets. Don't be fooled by the length, some of the sections become extremely technical and steep. Some include manditory 15 ft air with a very narrow landing (it's called field goal for a reason) For your first run, I would strongly recommend dropping onto the mogul run or just before the mogul run and see how you do. When you get off the trees/moguls cut skiers left and look back up toward the entrance, ski along the length of the trees and get an idea of what awaits you if you drop in further left on Ruby Road.
Tower 11 is also a decent sample of the steeps of CB. You'll pass right over it as you ride the Paradise lift. Approximately half way you will go over it (you will know it when you see it) It's a pretty good way to get into steeps, you can also choose not to ski the chute and ski down under the lift if it appears too steep when you are at the top. Be aware that like most steeps at CB, there will be plenty of rocks sticking out . Go slow at first and pick your way down them. As you gain confidence and speed you can give a little hop and go flying right over them.
There are plenty of other stashes to be found, but I'll leave it to you to explore or find a local. If you want some info about headwall and the northface just reply and I'll write it up later this afternoon.
post #12 of 16
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Originally Posted by carvemeister View Post
It's good to use for some of the much smaller airports, like Gunnison, Jackson Hole, etc. because with limited flights in and out, you can sometimes narrow down which flights you'll be on just by seeing "one connection or nonstop" listed in the search.
Yep, that's a good trick.
post #13 of 16
Yes, CB's snowfall is average so far. But average is low and terrain needs lots of coverage, so the North Face lift only opened 2 weeks ago, and half its terrain is still not open. That's why I recommend March to closing to ski there.
post #14 of 16
Thanks Mr. Shortround. Your post is great help. I don't know what level of skier I am but typicaly ski ungroomed blacks but I'm not jumping into Corbets Coulier though. Went to Jackson Hole for the last two years and loved it. Thought we would branch out a little this year and heard CB had some of the "big' skiing that J-Hole has. Love the Powder, steeps and trees, so your tips will be put to use.
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...Corbets Coulier...
Oooh, ouch!! I'm not usually a spelling Nazi, but that one does hurt. If I may, it's Couloir. There, I feel better now.

Have a good time at CB! I'll be looking for your trip report.
post #16 of 16
Thanks for the correction Carvemeister. I just saw the spell check too. Even spelling the word scares me.
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