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Is a set of vices necessary ?

post #1 of 16
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Is a set of vices necessary ?
I know for edge tuning it's a must but for waxing I think you can just stick the binding upside down in a workbench as long as it's not overtightened?
post #2 of 16
Necessary? No. Do they make the job a helluva lot easier? Oh Yes!.
post #3 of 16
I own ski vices now and they do make things easier. Before I got them I found that those portable workbenches (Workmate) made a great ski tuning station. Bench and clamp all in one. I've also made a block of wood to match my boot sole, put it in the binding and clamped that in my workbench vice.
post #4 of 16
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That's pretty much what I have at the moment (Workmate).
I can't see how you can do side edges on them without scratching the waxed base and/or having the ski bend at the ends while you're filing.
...or do you just put some padding in there ?
post #5 of 16
Here is what I came up with in an attmept to save some money. Works pretty good, I can clamp it to anything. I had made some supports for the tip and tail of the ski, but got lazy and didn't make them adjustable, therefore they ended up too short. Clamped to a sturdy table, this worked great!
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post #6 of 16
Thread Starter 
So, for a recreational skier/tuner, it's enough just to clamp the binding either on the bidnsing itself or by making something that acts as a boot substitute and clamp that ?
post #7 of 16
I did the no vice thing for 2 seasons....sucks, bought vices this season much, much easier.
post #8 of 16
You almost never seem them used for sale. And if you so, someone has swooped in and snagged them before you even see the ad/post/listing.
post #9 of 16
Can't do a whole lot with edges this way, but I put my skis on a couple of sawhorses when I'm waxing them. It works fine and is a whole lot easier than flailing around without them. Someday I'll be a grownup instead of a skinflint and spring for vices.

Have you checked the "deals" section of the Supporters Lounge? One of the companies listed there is offering 20% off of ski maintenance stuff.
post #10 of 16
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Originally Posted by GordonFreeman View Post
That's pretty much what I have at the moment (Workmate).
I can't see how you can do side edges on them without scratching the waxed base and/or having the ski bend at the ends while you're filing.
...or do you just put some padding in there ?
I always clamped the ski upside down by the binding in the Workmate. It's harder to do the edges that way but not impossible.
post #11 of 16
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Originally Posted by GordonFreeman View Post
Is a set of vices necessary ?
I don't know if you need a whole set--having one or two certainly makes life more fun (I'm hanging on to at least coffee & sex, with occasional forays into others).

PS--those things you use to hold skis: VISES
post #12 of 16
Thread Starter 
In America they're vises.
In England they're Vices
post #13 of 16
My skis outgrew my vices so I just bought some of those cinch vices from Alpinord. Nice to have a secure grip and platform to work with that quickly changes from side to base. If anyone is looking, these are probably the lowest price option out there that will work for wide skis and snowboards.

Now I guess I'll have to upgrade the workbench. Clamping them to the sofa in my office is OK, but gets some strange looks.
post #14 of 16
No, you don't need vises to tune skis. You can find just about anything to support your ski. Lots of things wil work OK. And you find many, many ways of securing your binding/ski brake, because you'll keep looking for a better system.

Eventually, you'll probably buy vises.

I'm all about finding lower-cost, common sense alternatives to tuning products, but ski-specific vises are the one tool for the job that makes it much easier and efficient. As said above, why do you think they're hard to find used and rarely go on sale new?
post #15 of 16
Thread Starter 
Out of interest are there any ideas out there of some ways you lot have supported the ends of the skis in a Workmate type setup?
Securing the binding id fine but to do edges and sturdy the tips and tails could be useful.

Also, securely holding the skis in the Workmate can take a bit of doing seeing as they're different widths where you clamp them...
post #16 of 16
Heres a Civil engineering students set up... If you got any of those crappy 3-8 pound weight sets your on your way to improvising. Here is what i do.

1. Push all my note books off my desk
2. grab the two 5 and 8 lb weights, set them at oposite ends of the desk.
3. insert a stiff box imbetween the two weights on each side of the desk.
4. Cover everything with a old bed sheet
5. for waxing rope tie the brakes back and set the ski on the makeshift bench (make sure one end of the ski is touching the wall for scaping).
6. for edge sharpining snap aboot in the ski and set the ski edge up on the "Bench." You may need to place something under the boot to keep the edge perpendicular to the bench surface.
7. Have at her

Fabar is right though... every one eventualy gives in to vices. But i would rath buy 300$ worth of lift tickets before doing that. Unless i work the rigs next summer again hmmmm. Mabey insted of new skies and a mountain bike just mabey....or i'll sell 2000$ worth of text books...
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