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post #31 of 57
Seven of us skied yesterday 1/25 07 in the Northern "DACKS" in 13 degrees BELOW zero Farhrenheit with - 30 degrees F windchill.

But the worst i' ever skied was @ Tremblant @ - 22 degrees with - 75 F windchill Fahrenheit

I have really great cold weather gear and several masks under the helmet

PS the skiing was super BOTH days and teh Hot chocolate nevers tasted better
post #32 of 57
Broke 2 T-bar cables once at Jay Peak at -40F, that was at the base with no wind. The tram was not running that day, asked what the temp at the top was and the service person said thier charts only went to -95F with wind chill and it was below that. While skiing on the lower sections that were open came across a thermometer on the outside of a pump house structure and it was pegged all the way over to -40F never seen that before. We handled it but one of my friends was starting to get frostbite on the tip of his nose over at the triple chair.
Just skied today at Mad River Glen and it was around -10 to -20F all day up there. Had lots of layers and those boot glove things and was fine all day. I can't take my son out below 5-10 F above because he gets cold really fast and he has had some close cases of frostbite so I have to be careful with him. I work outdoors quite a bit and am pretty used to cold. The big thing is dressing properly, if thats done than you can ski out in those low temps.
post #33 of 57
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Originally Posted by Bonni View Post
I haven't found a cold enough day to keep me from skiing yet.

"There's no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing." Dress for it.

Actually, dress isn't the limiting factor. I have tried to ski at -65F, but wax stops sliding. You no longer can go downhill on the commonly avaliable waxes. We used to shut the lifts down at -40F, as the grease no longer lubes the sheaves.

Windchill is also a poorly misunderstood concept. Windchill is the effective feeling of cold on exposed skin. While wind will obviously have an effect on a clothed body, it is not possible to apply the "windchill formula" to find a windchill temperature. And it really doesn't matter. If you're skiing at 30 mph at -30 on a calm day, you are creating a windchill effect.
post #34 of 57
Windchill is measured in the amount of time it takes exposed flesh to freeze. It is a triangulation of Temp.,Wind speed and Time. It is only relative to human flesh. However, there is another more important factor to consider. The THI(Tempreture Humidity Index) of a human body. It is measured in Kcals of energy expended. Regardless of hot or cold this is what effects preformance. Clothing, Physical fitness, yes Genetics, Energy intake and other factors play a part in Cold/Hot weather survival. Point being a person can only expend a certain amount of energy at a time without the need to recoop otherwise fatigue sets in. Also equipment does not react well to extreme tempretures usually failing in it's preformance. There are special Artic products that can withstand and operate at -100F.
It si unusal to see any Windchill factors when the Ambient Temp. reaches below -40F. The Artic air becomes stagnated and Air Density a contributing factor to Avation and Ballistics. In short S*&$ doesn't work after a certain Temp.:
post #35 of 57
slider...Impressive
post #36 of 57
Mine just got lower, I bought some Thermic boot heaters today! I went up to the North Slope of Alaska on business a few years ago and they gave me some -100F boots to wear along with a parka. Dead Horse , Alaska Airport ambient temp -50 F wind chill who knows. I remember geting off the plane taking abreath and coughing it was so cold. The guy I'm with laughs at me, and tells me welcome to Hell.

If I can keep my toes warm, I'm game for the coldest of weather. My problem has always been cold toes.
post #37 of 57
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Originally Posted by roundturns View Post
Mine just got lower, I bought some Thermic boot heaters today! I went up to the North Slope of Alaska on business a few years ago and they gave me some -100F boots to wear along with a parka. Dead Horse , Alaska Airport ambient temp -50 F wind chill who knows. I remember geting off the plane taking abreath and coughing it was so cold. The guy I'm with laughs at me, and tells me welcome to Hell.

If I can keep my toes warm, I'm game for the coldest of weather. My problem has always been cold toes.
We had Mickey Mouse boots(10th Mt. Airborne)in AK. I still have mine. There are batt. operated pre-air warming filaments that fit in front of your mouth to buffer the cold air intake into your lungs. People have froze their lungs from inhaling too rapidly(exertion). You are dead before you hit the ground. The only Dead Horse I know of is in Fairbanks near Ft.Wainwright. Which was not too far from where I was stationed.
post #38 of 57
For lodge-based sking, when you are with the safety of a heated lodge nearby should you become worried about loosing a foot to frostbite there is no limit, all you need is a good snowmobile suit. Don't breath heavily, avoid those exerting turns and just ski a straighter line . Now if I could only find a way to keep my feet warm; there's no room inside my boots for anything besides my feet.
post #39 of 57
I concede the race only when the mountain shuts the chairs down! I was out yesterday at Okemo, high temp was supposedly 7 degrees, although I'm not sure it ever got that "high!"
post #40 of 57
It was downright nice today, about 0-5 with a 15 mph wind at Stratton. The forecast had said at least 15 degrees colder.
post #41 of 57
I skied last year at okemo when it was -20 and supposedly -75 with the wind chill. We took the lift up, took one run down went into the lodge till we warmed up, then took the lift up again and went into the summit lodge. In that amount of time, my brother got mild frostbite on a sliver of uncovered skin on his face. While we were in the lodge, the power went out in ludlow because of the wind and the lift was stopped for like 30 minutes. I feel bad for the people stuck on the lift... and I don't know if the free hot chocolate coupon completely compensated them.
post #42 of 57
that happened to me more than once at Wawachusett. But they good about it and gave me another ticket. We were stopped at night temps around 0, good wind for about 35 mins on the chair til they started the backup diesel motor.
post #43 of 57
Coldest I’ve ever experienced was driving from Rutland to Killington one morning in Feb ’79. Bank thermometer in Rutland read -37F air temp, but it was a sunny, windless day and me and a bud stayed out for a full ski day. Had to buy face masks though and take a couple extra breaks. Temp reached about -17 around noon time. Another time at Killington in Feb 2001 with my kids it was about 17 above with a stiff wind. That was tougher and part of it was looking out for the kids and this thing someone mentioned about – we had no previous days to “work into it.”

Skiing recreationally and mostly in the mid-Atlantic, I don’t experience cold temps too often that test me, either we don’t get them, or those that approach brutal I don’t choose to make the family gear-up effort to go out into. A surprise 39 degree rainy day, which I get caught in more often, can be much tougher than a windless, zero degree day IMO that you’re prepared for.
post #44 of 57
I thought I would be cold yesterday at Sugarloaf. With a temp of about 12 degrees all day long, we were cold only from time to time. For the most part, with no wind, it was very pleasant with 100 mile veiws. The mountain was showing lots of snow and the skiing was great!!

I will now know that I can ski comfortably in O degree weather.
Says a lot for the Obermeyer's and North Face threads.
post #45 of 57
The coldest I have ever seen was 29 below Fahrenheit at Cannon, NH. I would head inside to warm-up / thaw-out every 45, 60 minutes or so.

Last week, I pulled into the parking lot at Keystone and the car thermometer was reading 10 below, Fahrenheit. It was actually pretty comfortable, and I didn't even have much on. I guess the dry air made it feel a lot warmer?
post #46 of 57
Around -30 at Wolf Creek, Colorado, -26 at Winter Park, Colorado, and
-18 at Big Sky, Montana. No wind any of those times.
post #47 of 57
If your spit bounces off the lift tower, it's time to go in.

I once slept in a tent at 10,000 ft in the Beartooths north of Yellow Stone National Park in what was -20F all weekend. My red LED keychain light hanging from my tent's roof bore a morning's worth of a breath-induced golf-ball sized cluster of surface hoar (freezer frost) that we properly named "The Disco Ball from Superman's Dance Hall."

We didn't sleep a fricking wink.
(but the three days of skiing rocked!)
post #48 of 57
Coldest I've ever skiied at was 10 below in VT, but I don't see why another 10 degrees or so of still air would stop me.

Hell, in Mongolia, I had to drop my drawers at 3 am in -30 degree weather, so I figure I can deal with a bit of cold if I'm actually having fun.
post #49 of 57
hey slider

I was at Wainwright from '86 to '91, in fact we had tom brokaw visit us during jack frost the year it didn't get above 40 below for about 5 weeks and we spent the night in a tent when the coldest recorded north american temp below the artic circle was set at -71. anyway we skied birtch hill, cleary's summit at up to -30 any colder and the skiis didn't proform all that well.
post #50 of 57
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Originally Posted by iceworm View Post
hey slider

I was at Wainwright from '86 to '91, in fact we had tom brokaw visit us during jack frost the year it didn't get above 40 below for about 5 weeks and we spent the night in a tent when the coldest recorded north american temp below the artic circle was set at -71. anyway we skied birtch hill, cleary's summit at up to -30 any colder and the skiis didn't proform all that well.
Hi Sourdough. That's what the locals were called cause their skin turns all white after a few years being up there. We use ride the bus from Greely to Wainwright and ski nights/weekends at the local hill. There were a few times when the Ice skates didn't want to work either.:
post #51 of 57
A few weeks ago at Mount Snow they said it was -44 at the top. It was super cold but it didn't feel THAT cold. But when the trip was over one guy had frosbite all over his face and nose, didn't even know it, so I guess it was pretty damn cold. Tried -50 once but couldn't move well after I got off the lift. At JH we had 3 days of -20 at the bottom, 20 at the top. So you froze as you went down, nice.
post #52 of 57
I just met it. Wind chills of -20 in Northern Michigan. Too much for a kid in a speed suit, or a mom at the base!!! There will be more races.....
post #53 of 57
Remember the NWS (or somebody) changed the formula to calculate Wind Chill ... three or four years ago. It "fudged" the rating a few degrees warmer. (What would have been -30 WCF is now something like -25 WCF.)

My Personal Record Cold was at Waterville Valley back around '80 or '81. The Base Temp was -30º ... and they were "saying" it was -113º F WCF(!). Two of my group refused to leave the Base Lodge at all. One buddy and I did ski, but after one run ... he bailed. (But ... it had snowed 8" the night before. It was the closest thing to "powder" I'd yet experienced.)

I kept skiing ... until my Plate Binding (Remember those?) *broke* about six runs later. They were "American" or something with "American" in the name. The plate snapped in half when I was in a trough on True Grit, the longest / steepest bump run I'd skied to-date. (Oh yeah. I was almost halfway down when it broke. What to do...?)

I tried to ski on one ski. I skied with my poles in one hand and my ski in the other. I fell only about 26 or 27 times(!). By then, I too was finished....


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Originally Posted by Bonni View Post
"There's no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing." Dress for it.
Best answer yet on this topic....

- KK
post #54 of 57
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Originally Posted by thechass View Post
What is your cold weather limit??????
In the old days, sub zero wouldn't stop me. But on my trip to Killington two weeks ago.... it was 8 degrees the first day and snowing. I skied all day. The second day was -6 F, sunny and no wind. I skied all day.

The third day was -16 F, cloudy, and 40 mile an hour steady winds, with gusts up to 60 MPH. Only two lifts were open, Snowshed and one Gondola. I skied for 45 minutes, and at that point the cold and wind had frozen the corner of my left eye shut ! ( yes, I had goggles, but I had some fogging and when I lifted the goggles to clear them... Zap !)

I let common sense get the best of me ( I HATE when that happens ;-)
and I traded my ticket for a voucher that I can use another day, and called it quits. Great trip with great conditions otherwise, though.

Cheers,
WW
post #55 of 57
today it was very cold like -25 farenheit with windchill and for some reason on the lift i began speaking with a lisp.....
post #56 of 57
It gets really cold at Waterville - that place at the top before they had the windbreak it was ridiculous - one of those feelings like the wind is literally blowing through you - you can feel the heat sapping out of your core. Nasty.

Actually since i have better gear now I'm a baby about getting cold. I figure there's no need (ie I can always add a layer or whatever). Like today I didn't have much stuff on thinking my kid would come in after a few minutes but he actually outlasted me - about an hour of standing around while he played then daddy had to go in .
post #57 of 57

keep em running

I'm with John H. depends on the snow condition. I can dress for almost anything up here. The kicker for me in Breck is that the wind is moderate enough to keep the chairs running. I despise having the chairs stop on a really cold day. Also, my comfort tolerance is just before my forefoot starts feeling "blocky", I get inside for awhile.

If the temp are 0*F and above it's usually fine. The wind in Breck is usually welcome. Just head for the leeward side of the mountain, where the wind has deposited the snow.

Here is video of a day that was -8F with 25mph wind. After about 2hrs I decided to take a 15 minute break. The rest of the group kept going, because the snow was really good.
http://mysnowpro.com/jonathanlawson/..._breckenri.php

Have fun,
j
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