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Sad News: Skier Death at PCMR

post #1 of 24
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Here's the story from the AP...

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=833369

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Originally Posted by AP
PARK CITY, Utah (AP) -- A 49-year-old skier died after apparently crashing into trees at Park City Mountain Resort, a spokeswoman said Thursday. Brett Pendleton was unconscious when discovered in trees near the Pay Day run Wednesday. He was wearing a helmet, resort spokeswoman Krista Parry said. "He was a very accomplished skier and ski racer," she said. "He could have caught an edge. There were no witnesses." Pendleton was pronounced dead at University of Utah Hospital in Salt Lake City. He volunteered each Tuesday for the resort's safety patrol. Pendleton also was a hanglider and paraglider, Parry said.

(Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
So, good skier, wearing a helmet, $#!+ Happens I guess. RIP and sympathy to his family.
post #2 of 24
Man, that just sucks. RIP.
post #3 of 24
Yeah, helmet or no, you hit a tree with any speed and this is typically the result.

RIP.
post #4 of 24
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Originally Posted by killclimbz View Post
Yeah, helmet or no, you hit a tree with any speed and this is typically the result.

RIP.
I hit a tree with my head and my shoulder. I don't think I had a concussion, but I did feel like my bell had been rung, saw stars, etc. My collarbone broke. I'm pretty sure my head would have broke too without the helmet. Who knows? Helmet definitely will lessen impact to the skull. Sorry about the guy dying. Ski easy people, don't try to be the rock star in the ski movie. Slow down and smell the flowers, if you know what I mean. Don't skip the safety meetings.
post #5 of 24
Condolences to the family. Dying from a sport at any age is a terrible thing. You go out expecting to have fun and a beer and chili at the end of the day, and when things go wrong, you're totally unprepared.

I've decided I no longer want to ski faster. Better, yes, but faster isn't an issue to this old body any longer. I want to ski more years, not less.

Someone tell me it's ok NOT to keep up with the Joneses?
post #6 of 24
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Originally Posted by Bonni View Post
Someone tell me it's ok NOT to keep up with the Joneses?
It's OK. Really.

The cool part is when the Joneses want you to hang with them anyway because they enjoy your company, even though you can't keep up.

Sorry to hear about this guy. What a drag.
post #7 of 24
RIP and Condolences. It could be any one of us. Accidents do happen and none of us knows when the bell will toll for us; However, this skiier went out living the dream. As Neil points out, "It's better to burn out than it is to rust."

"Happy the man, happy he alone, he who can call this day his own. He who, secure within, can say, 'Tomorrow bring thy worst, for I have lived today.' "
post #8 of 24
Only the good die young.

RIP and may peace be with you all.
post #9 of 24
RIP!

I actually hit a tree at Skibowl this last saturday and ended up in a treewell.

Fortunetely, I had two friends behind me that saw me and were able to get me out right away. They both said that if nobody was around, I'd still be there because you couldn't see me.

What happened was the ski school kids (mogul busters, they're called) were fallowing the instructor and crossing the entire trail in wedge turns. I crested over a steep roller, at speed, and there they were...About 8 of the kids taking up the entire trail in the middle of the steep and I was totally cut off. I had to slam on the breaks and go all the way to the outside of the trail to avoid slamming the instructor and kids.

I caught an edge in the deep crust on the side of the trail and got tossed in the air backwards right into the forest. At least I scrubbed off most of my speed before going in. This was a fairly narrow trail that's labled as a black diamond, although closer to a blue run w/some steep rollers. It's probably a black due to the narrowness of the trail.

I'm going to talk to the school director because kids who are still wedge turning shouldn't be on that trail and I don't understand their practice of teaching kids the bad habit of taking an entire trail to make turns.

The instructor didn't even stop to see if I was o.k..

This situation couldn've easily been another story about good skier dies hitting tree.

I do take responsibility for my actions, but for the conditions, I was skiing in control and should be able to reasonably expect to ski the way I was skiing given the trail's rating.

At Skibowl, I see this method of teaching incorporated all over the hill, not just this particular trail.

I hit the tree backwards w/my head and back. I didn't break anything, but did suffer a mild concussion which basically gave me a constant mild headache that lasted until yesterday.
post #10 of 24
I didn't click the link, so it might have been mentioned there, but this happened during Master's SuperG training early Wednesday morning. It was on a closed course before the area was open to the public.
post #11 of 24
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Originally Posted by Jim in PC View Post
I didn't click the link, so it might have been mentioned there, but this happened during Master's SuperG training early Wednesday morning. It was on a closed course before the area was open to the public.
Must be another accident. This one they didn't find him until he didn't come home. That would mean they didn't know WHEN it actually happened.
post #12 of 24
sibhusky, They do Know he was at the early morning training. But they did not start looking for him untill much later.
post #13 of 24
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Originally Posted by memosteve View Post
RIP!

I actually hit a tree at Skibowl this last saturday and ended up in a treewell.

Fortunetely, I had two friends behind me that saw me and were able to get me out right away. They both said that if nobody was around, I'd still be there because you couldn't see me.

What happened was the ski school kids (mogul busters, they're called) were fallowing the instructor and crossing the entire trail in wedge turns. I crested over a steep roller, at speed, and there they were...About 8 of the kids taking up the entire trail in the middle of the steep and I was totally cut off. I had to slam on the breaks and go all the way to the outside of the trail to avoid slamming the instructor and kids.

I caught an edge in the deep crust on the side of the trail and got tossed in the air backwards right into the forest. At least I scrubbed off most of my speed before going in. This was a fairly narrow trail that's labled as a black diamond, although closer to a blue run w/some steep rollers. It's probably a black due to the narrowness of the trail.

I'm going to talk to the school director because kids who are still wedge turning shouldn't be on that trail and I don't understand their practice of teaching kids the bad habit of taking an entire trail to make turns.

The instructor didn't even stop to see if I was o.k..

This situation couldn've easily been another story about good skier dies hitting tree.

I do take responsibility for my actions, but for the conditions, I was skiing in control and should be able to reasonably expect to ski the way I was skiing given the trail's rating.

At Skibowl, I see this method of teaching incorporated all over the hill, not just this particular trail.

I hit the tree backwards w/my head and back. I didn't break anything, but did suffer a mild concussion which basically gave me a constant mild headache that lasted until yesterday.
Same thing happened to me, except it was on a green and I ended up upside down with one leg caught in some branches, but otherwise fine.


Condolences to the family. It a terrible when something like this happens.
post #14 of 24
Super-G race training with no netting on the course? Seems pretty risking to be skiing at super-G speeds with nothing between you and the trees.
post #15 of 24
here is what the local Park City newpaper wrote,
http://parkrecord.com/todaysheadlines/ci_5095500
post #16 of 24
He died doing what he loved. Hope it was quick.
post #17 of 24
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Originally Posted by memosteve View Post
RIP!

I actually hit a tree at Skibowl this last saturday and ended up in a treewell.

Fortunetely, I had two friends behind me that saw me and were able to get me out right away. They both said that if nobody was around, I'd still be there because you couldn't see me.

What happened was the ski school kids (mogul busters, they're called) were fallowing the instructor and crossing the entire trail in wedge turns. I crested over a steep roller, at speed, and there they were...About 8 of the kids taking up the entire trail in the middle of the steep and I was totally cut off. I had to slam on the breaks and go all the way to the outside of the trail to avoid slamming the instructor and kids.

I caught an edge in the deep crust on the side of the trail and got tossed in the air backwards right into the forest. At least I scrubbed off most of my speed before going in. This was a fairly narrow trail that's labled as a black diamond, although closer to a blue run w/some steep rollers. It's probably a black due to the narrowness of the trail.

I'm going to talk to the school director because kids who are still wedge turning shouldn't be on that trail and I don't understand their practice of teaching kids the bad habit of taking an entire trail to make turns.

The instructor didn't even stop to see if I was o.k..

This situation couldn've easily been another story about good skier dies hitting tree.

I do take responsibility for my actions, but for the conditions, I was skiing in control and should be able to reasonably expect to ski the way I was skiing given the trail's rating.

At Skibowl, I see this method of teaching incorporated all over the hill, not just this particular trail.

I hit the tree backwards w/my head and back. I didn't break anything, but did suffer a mild concussion which basically gave me a constant mild headache that lasted until yesterday.
This insipid post boggles my mind. I was there training SuperG with Brett, WHAT THE HELL DOES YOUR POST HAVE TO DO WITH MY FRIENDS DEATH, the topic of this post.

BTW, YOU CLEARLY WERE NOT SKIING IN CONTROL FOR THE CONDITIONS OR YOU WOULD NOT HAVE ENDED UP IN A FREAKING TREE WELL. BY THE WAY, SKIERS CAN USE AS MUCH OF THE SLOPE AS THEY WANT AND SKIERS THAT CAN ACTUALLY MAKE TURNS TEND TO FINISH THEIR TURNS BRINGING THEM ACROSS THE HILL.

Here, this may help you in the future
  1. Ski under control and in such a manner so that you can stop at any time or avoid other skiers or objects.
  2. When passing or overtaking another skier you must avoid the skier below you.
  3. You should not stop where you obstruct a trail or are not visible from above.
  4. When entering a trail or starting a descent yield to other skiers.
  5. Check your equipment daily - particularly your release bindings. All skiers must use devices while skiing to help prevent runaway skis. Runaway skis can be lethal whether on the trial of from falling from an aerial list. You have a responsibility to your fellow skiers to prevent injury to them.
  6. You shall keep off posted trails and posted areas and observe all posted signs.
  7. Follow instructions carefully when using ski lifts.
  8. Please observe all posted "slow skiing areas".
  9. Do not ski slopes too difficult for your ability.
  10. Do not jump or perform "aerial" maneuvers.
This is called the "Skier's Responsibility Code" and if you knew this you'd understand that people that DO MAKE TURNS and ARE BELOW YOU HAVE THE RIGHT AWAY.

Past that, this statement is past idiocy;

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I don't understand their practice of teaching kids the bad habit of taking an entire trail to make turns.
Rather they should be skiing straight down the hill (in your mind probably "Switch") at 50 MPH so any poor adept skier making round turns is in danger for their lives from getting hit from behind - as you almost did to the poor kids and their instructor?

Lastly, a man died here and from circumstance you do not understand and probably could never understand (as I highly doubt you are a extremely skilled Master Racer, right?). Show some respect and post your own pathetic whiny story in your post, not here.

This sickens me
post #18 of 24
WOW!

I can see you are very hurt by your friend's untimely passing, so I'll not take what you are saying personally.

Just FYI, I don't ride "switch" and I'm not some young punkass noob...I do know the code very well and even though it does state it's the overtakers responsibility to avoid those overtaken, not ALL situations are so black and white. No different than passing someone on the freeway and they suddenly turn in front of you and cause you to hit them or leave the roadway...

It's one thing to have to avoid a skier on a trail that suddenly turns into your line, but quite another to avoid 8-9 of them side-by-side blocking the entire trail, leaving you no way through.

You should also consult the part of the code that clearly states "do not ski slopes too difficult for your ability"...This was clearly violated by the instructor who took those 5 year old kids down a narrow icey black diamond run. I don't see you blasting him!

Would you still be bashing me had this been a thread about my death (which under the conditions my crash took place could've very easily been)? Considering your friend was an expert skier, why wasn't he skiing in control? And now you are forcing me to question his actions...Way to go!

My initial post on this thread wasn't meant to distract from what happened to your friend, or to compare myself/situation to him in any way shape or form, rather to re-empathise what could happen to any one of us at any time and how easily it could happen...That's all!

I also didn't see you blast the poster who had the same thing happen to him on a green run...At least mine was on a diamond run where it's totally reasonable to expect people on such trails to be skiing at a quick pace and therefore the distance required to stop/avoid is exponentially increased.

One further thing...There was a patroller who came down the run while my friends were getting me out of the treewell and when we explained to him what happened, he agreed that the instructor shouldn't have been on that run w/those kids skiing that way...He didn't say I was doing anything wrong.

Now please go and grieve and be there for his family...That's all anyone can do now and my apologies for offending you during this hard time...Just don't take your anger out on innocent people.
post #19 of 24
It seems to me if you're not on a "closed course" then coming down a trail with limited visibility at the kind of speed you are describing is totally irresponsible. I don't often side with Gary Dranow on things, but this time I have to. It could have just as easily been you came over the hill and there were ski patrol, a sled, etc. blocking your way. Whether skiing or driving, you should never be going faster than your line of sight would dictate.
post #20 of 24
This isn't the place to discuss your incident steve. Had you said: 'wow, I fell in a tree well this weekend myself, it's scary to know that this could happen to any of us', that might have been slightly more appropriate.

If you are so concerned about your own situation maybe you should start another thread about it, where most people can all tell you that you were in the wrong. Better yet, do something about this 'dangerous issue' and go talk to the ski school director. If there were 8 kids+ an instructor you should have been able to see them from far away. If it was a blind turn, or too steep then it is on you to at least slow down until you can see the rest of the trail is clear.

If anybody else feels the need to discuss this, I'd suggest making a new thread.

RIP + Condolences to his friends and family.
post #21 of 24
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Originally Posted by sibhusky View Post
It seems to me if you're not on a "closed course" then coming down a trail with limited visibility at the kind of speed you are describing is totally irresponsible. I don't often side with Gary Dranow on things, but this time I have to. It could have just as easily been you came over the hill and there were ski patrol, a sled, etc. blocking your way. Whether skiing or driving, you should never be going faster than your line of sight would dictate.
This I can buy...Except I thought I already made it clear that not only was I able to avoid the kids/instructor, but that I was almost completely stopped at the time I went to the side of the trail and happened to catch an edge in the crud. Other than me having to slam on the edges and catching an edge, I didn't come anywhere near hitting those kids/instructor and therefore I was in CONTROL. My gripe is that I don't feel I should've been forced into the situation at all...

It's not like there was a patroller, sled, injured downed skier scenario going on (which I would've been able to avoid as well, and not gone off the trail as I would've had the option to go around w/out fully stopping or having the entire trail blocked)...It was what was supposed to be a responsible adult charged w/the safety of kids that CHOSE to ski on a dangerous trail, beyond the capabilities of those in his care, in a dangerous fashion.

You don't see my kids on that trail!

You weren't there and just by the fact that I ONLY hurt myself and avoided colliding w/others proves that I was in fact in control, which had I not gone to the extreme edge of the narrow trail would'nt have ended in my injury anyway...I small misjudgement on my part to attempt to stop on the edge of the trail, but I was doing my part to get out of the way of those behind me and not cut them off in the way I was.
post #22 of 24
Agreed, but see below.
Agreed...And once again, my apologies to those offended by my selfish nature...Better yet, how about I just get off the site totally, since my obvious lack of concern/skiing ability and general lack of contribution to the site, other than my self-rightous egotistical manner can't hold a candle to you other "elite" skiers that NEVER get hurt or ski out of control and therefore will NEVER get hurt atmophere...Will that make you happy?

By the way...Talking about taking a thread out of context...You should look in the mirror sometime.

Once again, RIP to the victim! Hope it never happens to me or any of you...Even the rude ones

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Originally Posted by Singel View Post
This isn't the place to discuss your incident steve. Had you said: 'wow, I fell in a tree well this weekend myself, it's scary to know that this could happen to any of us', that might have been slightly more appropriate.

If you are so concerned about your own situation maybe you should start another thread about it, where most people can all tell you that you were in the wrong. Better yet, do something about this 'dangerous issue' and go talk to the ski school director. If there were 8 kids+ an instructor you should have been able to see them from far away. If it was a blind turn, or too steep then it is on you to at least slow down until you can see the rest of the trail is clear.

If anybody else feels the need to discuss this, I'd suggest making a new thread.


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RIP + Condolences to his friends and family.
post #23 of 24
^ I didn't attack you, so quit escalating the situation here. I just stated my opinion as others did, and my main point is that a thread about a man dieing isn't the place to discuss any of this, and the only reason I responded again was to say that it would be nice if you didn't put your own words inside my quotation. Quite frankly it makes me sound like an idiot.

I've got nothing else to say on the matter, unless you want to show some respect and move it to another thread.
post #24 of 24
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Originally Posted by Singel View Post
^ I didn't attack you, so quit escalating the situation here. I just stated my opinion as others did, and my main point is that a thread about a man dieing isn't the place to discuss any of this, and the only reason I responded again was to say that it would be nice if you didn't put your own words inside my quotation. Quite frankly it makes me sound like an idiot.

I've got nothing else to say on the matter, unless you want to show some respect and move it to another thread.
Sorry...Quote fixed...New thread started under "General ski discussion"...Flame war over...Respect given...My apologies.
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