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What is a good all mountain twintip ski?

post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
I was wondering if anyone had any recommendation on a good all mountain TWIN TIP ski?
post #2 of 20
Depends on where you ski, your size, your skill level and how much time you plan to spend off-piste. Provide that info and we can make better recommendations.
post #3 of 20
Can't go wrong with K2 Public Enemy
post #4 of 20
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Originally Posted by Rio View Post
Depends on where you ski, your size, your skill level and how much time you plan to spend off-piste. Provide that info and we can make better recommendations.
...also saves the server from crashing.

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread...228#post645228
post #5 of 20
Thread Starter 
I live on the east coast but am going out to utah next month. Next year I plan on joining my college club team which skiis twice out west but otherwise goes to small east coast resorts (wintergreen, snowshoe). I am 6'2' weigh 175. I would say I am advanced, as I ski almost everything and am usually willing to try any run (no im not one of those people who make themselves look like fools, just so they can say they did it). I plan on doing some off-piste but more groomed stuff as I live on the east coast and they do not have much of that.
post #6 of 20
technically Mantra is twin tip. But I'm no park rat ... just enamored with the Mantra since my demo
post #7 of 20
Considering you live out East and have to deal with real ice my top recommendation would be the Volkl Karma. Its a great all-around ski that does better on ice than most twin tips. My second choice would be the Rossignol Scratch FS which is pretty stiff torsionally giving it a decent grip on hard snow.
post #8 of 20

My Mantra isn't a Twin Tip

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Originally Posted by ct55 View Post
technically Mantra is twin tip. But I'm no park rat ... just enamored with the Mantra since my demo
Hi ct55,

I just went out to the garage to be sure before I posted. My 2007 red 184cm Mantra has a tiny bit more kick to the tail that my Volkl 168cm Allstars but it surely isn’t a twin tip. However, my 177cm Volkl Karma is, without a doubt, a twin tip and an amazing wonderful all mountain skis. Here is a review I did from last year.

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=33326

This is my second year on them and if I was forced to only have one ski….this would be the one!

Have fun finding your skis.

Michael
post #9 of 20
The K2 Public Enemy and Volkl Karma are probably the two most popular allmountain twins. The Salomon Foil (the previous 1080 was way too soft for allmountain, this one is better) and the Nordica Supercharger Ignition are both gaining steam in that category as well.
post #10 of 20
I think you need to think about what you want the ski for...skiing in VA, or your trips out west. (Are you a hoo, by any chance?).

Given that your skiing most in the east on smaller hills, I wouldn't go much wider than the Karma (85 mm) which consistently gets solid reviews.

I'll also throw the Line Prophet 80 in the discussion. I picked up a pair of the 05/06 Prophet 80s this year fairly cheap and think it's a great all mt twin tip ski. Some people have had issues with durability, but I have not yet and I am really impressed with how the ski handles a variety of conditions.
post #11 of 20
K2 Public Enemy 179cm mounted at midsole not core center. I would still use it back east on a number of days. It rips on tons of snow conditions.

the Karmas i thought werent as stiff or as energetic as the PEs. still good skis but IMO the K2s are better.
post #12 of 20
you're right wrt Mantra not being a true twin tip - Karma is more of a dedicated twin tip ski. As I said I'm not a park rat

But in my defense ... there are many places that advertise it as such (google twin tip Mantra and you'll see what I mean). I think Volkl refers to it as "freeride". It's pretty easy to ski backwards on it if that's any consolation. And it is a top contender for all mountain type ski (specially for western conditions) from what I've seen.
post #13 of 20
IMO, twin tips don't make that great of an all mountain ski in the east. In general TTs are not that great for either hard snow or heavy crud common in the east. However TTs generally do great in bumps and alot of eastern hills have tons of bumps. If you really want a TT for all mountain use the karma and PE should be at the top of your list.
post #14 of 20
I'm going to throw my vote in for the new 07 Atomice Pimp Twin Tips. I just purchased them this fall and I've been skiing on them at Timberline WV for the past few weekends, going tomorrow again.

I mainly purchased these for skiing in Europe (St Anton) as well as out West. I was very surprised at how well they ski the East coast conditions in WV so far. The Edge hold isn't the greatest, but then again this is a ski with a 99mm waist. It does hold an edge fairly well and the bigger the turns the better. It was very quick in short turns and through moguls, but you have to work the ski. The Ski as a whole is very stiff and it makes you work, but it's a great ski for more advanced skiers. I'd recommend this Twin Tip as my All mountain ski, as they are very light and a lot quicker turning than I would have imagined.

I'm 6'2 about 260lbs or so and I ski the 193 length. They feel much shorter than 193 though as I've been used to the 180s range of the Bandit lineup. The Pimp is much stiffer than any Bandit I skied before. The Atomic Pimps are hard to find though, especially in the shorter 183 length. From what my rep told me from Atomic, they only import about 200 pairs of these skis or so.

I'm hoping to try them in some off piste skiing in a few weeks at St Anton and I'll report on how they do in the deep stuff (if they get enough snow that is!).

JP
post #15 of 20
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IMO, twin tips don't make that great of an all mountain ski in the east. In general TTs are not that great for either hard snow or heavy crud common in the east. However TTs generally do great in bumps and alot of eastern hills have tons of bumps. If you really want a TT for all mountain use the karma and PE should be at the top of your list.
i used to feel the same way. i tried my friends PE's and was surprised how well they did holding an edge. i ski entirely in the east and as you know, it's been a little hard-packed this year. these skis hold well. i also own m11b5's, and i'm not saying these hold like the m11b5's, but they do hold well.

if you must have twin tips, try out a pair of PE's. i think you'll be surprised. (and they won't kill your wallet either).
post #16 of 20

Head Mojo 90 - perfect combination

It can carve, it can go backwards and it floats on powder with a 90 mm waist. I turned in my Head im88´s for a pair og 186 cm Mojos and have never regreat it! But as always, test what you buy..
post #17 of 20
I'll have some Rossi Scratch FS's on the way soon - I'll post a review once I get out on them. I also have some Rossi Sprayer BC's I was going to use in MT, but since the snow was thin, they didn't make the trip. Once I use those, I'll have to review them as well.
post #18 of 20
PM Gear Bro Model.
post #19 of 20
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PM Gear Bro Model.
Not a true twin tip, just an upturned tail.

Still, from the hype and reviews a heck of a ski. I want a 188 soft to round out the quiver...
post #20 of 20
I'd suggest the Karma , Uber neat skis !
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