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post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
I'm going on a surprise ski trip this weekend, and rather than rent again or use my old skis, I'm finally going to put in the effort to get bindings put on my "newer" skis.

I have a fresh pair of dynastar skicross 9, 2003 model that are 178cm in length. I weigh about 170-175 pounds and consider myself a higher end level 8 skier. I have been skiing for about 17-18 years.

Here's my question. I'm about 175cm tall, I'm worried that these skis might be a bit too long for me. Not to mention that I'm going crazy because my weight, height and ski length are all within 5 of eachother. My question is, are there any binding that will essentially help "shorten" the skis for me a little bit? I had a choice either between the 178s or the 165s unfortunately, and decided to go with the longer ski.

I'm hitting up skiing in austria for the first time in my life this weekend and am pretty excited and I'd like to get some bindings on there before the trip. So any help you guys can provide would help a lot.
post #2 of 19
That ski is fine for you int eh 178. The type of ski has the reflection on the lenght that it should be skied in. As far as shortening the ski..mount the bindings a couple of centimeters forward.
post #3 of 19
kl cz

Phil makes a good point about binding position. Mounting a little further towards the front will help you initiate your turns a little easier.

As to WHICH binding, I don't think you have much choice. If I'm not mistaken the lifter plates on those skis are pre-drilled to fit only Look Pivot or Rossi Axial bindings. I know my Ski Cross 10's were.
post #4 of 19
Thread Starter 
Yeah, I definitely didn't want to hear that I'll be extremely limited in choice. Are those seriously the only 2 that I have available?

Looks like this person got some markers on there, can't tell if they changed the plate though:

http://cgi.ebay.com/DYNASTAR-SC9-SKI...QQcmdZViewItem
post #5 of 19
Those are the olds SC 9s which were narrower and didn't have a plate.
post #6 of 19
The 2003 SkiCross 9s require the older Look Pivot or Rossignol Axial bindings. It is very easy to move them forward or backward on the plates since the holes are predrilled. Moving the binding one hole forward will make the ski easier to initiate in turns but more squirrelly going straight at high speeds.

I doubt you'll have much problem with those skis at your weight and level. I'm 180#, level 9 and ski the 2004 SkiCross 10 (which is the same as the 2003) in a 170cm length only because I wanted them for playing in moguls. 178cm would have been a better all-purpose length.
post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by ki_cz View Post
Yeah, I definitely didn't want to hear that I'll be extremely limited in choice. Are those seriously the only 2 that I have available?

Looks like this person got some markers on there, can't tell if they changed the plate though:

http://cgi.ebay.com/DYNASTAR-SC9-SKI...QQcmdZViewItem
Does your ski have a pre-drilled lifter plate on the ski? If so, Rossi Axial or Look Pivot are your choices. They are excellent bindings though.

If not, Rio's right and in that case it'll take any binding. If that the case, I'd recommend the railflex binding as that will give you the flexability to move the binding around (+/- 1.5cm).
post #8 of 19
Thread Starter 
Yes, it does have the pre-drilled plate, so it looks like those are my choices. I'm trying to look online to see how easy they will be to get where I live, I'm wondering though, are the pivot bindings the same thing as the PX bindings?
post #9 of 19
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Originally Posted by ki_cz View Post
I'm wondering though, are the pivot bindings the same thing as the PX bindings?
No they're not. The Pivot/Axail bindings are hard to find in shops as they're now outdated, Usually ebay is your best bet.

You could also post a "wanted to buy" ad in the Gear Swap forum here, as they are/were very popular bindings in their time.
post #10 of 19
I just did a quick ebay search and they're are many of both the Look Pivot and the Rossi Axial on ebay right now.

Note: some are Axial 2 and you do not want those.
post #11 of 19
Thread Starter 
Ok, so I'm looking for the look "P" series (P10, etc.)? The PX is an upgrade of the Pivot it looks like, which for sure won't work?

Coach13: thanks for the help, I guess I'll be stuck renting for the weekend!
post #12 of 19
If you are going skiing this weekend, you are limited. Start calling your local shops.
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by ki_cz View Post
Ok, so I'm looking for the look "P" series (P10, etc.)? The PX is an upgrade of the Pivot it looks like, which for sure won't work?

The PX is the upgrade of the pivot and the Axial 2 is the upgrade of the axial.

I've read here many times that the upgraded bindings will not fit the old pre-drilled plates, so that's what I'm basing my info on. Maybe one of the shop guys here will chime in and confirm??
post #14 of 19
Thread Starter 
So far I've only managed to get my hands on some Axial 100s locally ... still looking around though.
post #15 of 19
I have some PX2 and Axial 2 bindings. I tried to match them up with the holes in my SkiCross 10s and the heel pieces don't match.

You could get by with Axial 100s/Pilot 10s but Axial 120s/Pilot 12s or Axial 140s/Pilot 14s would be preferred.
post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by Coach13 View Post
The PX is the upgrade of the pivot and the Axial 2 is the upgrade of the axial.

I've read here many times that the upgraded bindings will not fit the old pre-drilled plates, so that's what I'm basing my info on. Maybe one of the shop guys here will chime in and confirm??
Use of the word upgrade implies better or improved. Now that is a debate for another day.
post #17 of 19
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Use of the word upgrade implies better or improved. Now that is a debate for another day.
You're right, I was just mirroring kl_cz's terminology. The new models are not much of an "upgrade, imo.
post #18 of 19
Thread Starter 
Yeah, I basically meant upgrade in terms of "newer model". Turns out that they didn't have the axials at the store, THEY LIED! So after carrying my skis around the city, I came up empty handed. Looks like I'll be renting this trip, but at least now I know what to get and since I have more time, will probably be able to get the 120s or 140s (or p10/p12). Thanks for the help everybody!

ps. anybody else happen to be going to kitzbuhel this weekend?
post #19 of 19
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ps. anybody else happen to be going to kitzbuhel this weekend?
I wish...

Good luck with the skis!
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