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Switching Coaches

post #1 of 11
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Was wondering if the ski race technique of switching coaches was healthy and if anyone was doing it to the extreme explained below? I realise its down but if down in rapid progession.

I am refering to switching coaches almost on a daily basis thoughout the season and with J-5's and J-4's. Keep in mind that several of the coaches are guest coaches and not regular coaches in the system.
post #2 of 11
How many coaches are there? This is pretty unique. How often would they switch. Kids like things to be "constant" and predictable and as long as the coaching is at an acceptable level it sounds like this may lead to lots of confusion at that formative stage of skiing.

On the flip side, a guest coach who has a particular talent may get something across through example or verbal inspiration that may be missing .... the kid and the guest coach may click ..
post #3 of 11
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For a group of 7 racers there have been 6 different coaches over the last 4 weeks. They have not had the same coach over any two day period.

The Director says that it is technique that works but this group of racers seem to be become stangnate as they are never are working on the same thing at any given practice. The Director is fairly adament that it works, but have not seen the progession you would think you would see.

There seems to be the upside of getting varing coaching techniques, but it seems to confuse the kids.

Does anybody switch coaching this much?
post #4 of 11
Another downside is that the "coach of the day" is not aware of what the kids need to work on ..... especially as individuals. What kind of commands they will or won't respond to. The kids and coach need to learn each other as the season progresses.

Seems more minus than plus for this system .... are they rotating coaches through (J-2 switches with the J-4), or is there a turnover issue. This is the start/middle of the "on the road" season.
post #5 of 11
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It is not turn over. It is a combination of guest coachs and coaches on staff. Coaches have great expereince and some have FIS level coaching and racing experince. It has been going on since before X-mas, so I would say start of the season for now. The issue to me is that the kids are not getting themslevs going with a the preseason base of training ina consitant manner.

But I do not know. Thanks for the input.
post #6 of 11
Sounds like a huge race program if there are that many race coaches! Are all of these coaches actually qualified? Or are these just former racers coaching their successors?
post #7 of 11
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Switching coaches

It is actually a small program with only 4-5 full time coaches. 40-60 kids. The current coaches are very qualified and the quest coaches are very qualified, in fact over qualified for coaching J-4's. The problem to me is the "flavor of the week" coach coming in for a day or two. Even internally a group does not have a designated on staff coach. One guest coach is currtly coaching World Cup and another coach has raced World Cup. I thinkin part the that the adults are impressed with having this level of coaching, but frankly the kids may not getting what they need out of it.
post #8 of 11
Stupid idea. Insufficient reps for J-5 and J-4 kids to cement anything, particularly understanding of technique. Maybe once the foundations are laid, but J-5?

What happens if one coach of the day has the skiers tall at transition, and the other has them short? What if one coach teaches J-5's edging with inclination and another with knee angulation and a third with boot touches, and a fourth with roller-blade turns? Now ask the kid how to get on edge to initiate a turn. You'll get a lot of different answers -- how can one kid then comment on another's skiing?

What does the lack of consistency do to their confidence?
post #9 of 11
Thread Starter 

Switching coaches

Thank you for the input. I was looking for confermation of how I was feeling baout this as well as my J-4. She feels like she is trying to absorb to much information and working on to many different drills and techniques.

In particular not having a single coach to talk with and work with on the items she knows she needs to work on bothers her. It is also taking the fun out of it. As anyone knows there is a social aspect to it, specially with girls.
post #10 of 11
I think you need to talk to the head coach again about this, especially if your daughter, WITHOUT your prompting her, is overwhelmed. I can see giving them different coaches, but not so rapid a transition. Maybe they want ALL the coaches to know ALL the kids? But everywhere we've been, certain coaches worked predominantly with certain groups of kids, not necessarily age groups, more ability groups. The exception would be if a given coach had to go with some kids to a race and it was a matter of coverage.
post #11 of 11
I like having one coach that has regular and consistent contact with kids at this age. He or she is COACH. In addition I like having some of our other staff rotate into various groups. The visiting coach helps both the athlete and the coach. For the athlete, sometimes a different voice clicks. For the primary coach, having a new set of eyes sometimes gives us a better view of an athlete- I can't tell you how many times one of our coaches has seen an athlete's flaw in a differnt way that enabled me to take a new tack at curing a difficult technique problem.

The other nice thing about this approach is that the coaches for older gets get to know the youngers and watch them before the kids are in the next age group.

Now- to your question, I too would have trouble with the concept of "coach of the day". As a coach it wouldn't be very rewarding ( I LOVE watching my kids improve from week to week, year to year and it is one of the things that keeps me going) and for the athlete I too think it might be confusing and inconsistent.
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