Originally Posted by sarahmskis
Thanks for the comments! And I agree with you that I have a tendency to 'cut out' the top of my turn, and a part of that, i think, comes back to trying to control the radius of my turn and speed - get through the fall line fast, then hang on to my turn for a relatively long time to really complete it . Although I guess what you are saying is that IDEALLY i should be able to get my tight turn through greater anglelation - commit to the edge earlier (and stronger), let the skis go to the side .. sort of what you can see on the pics on the WC skiers (and the Thomas Grandi video), while staying forward enough to drive the turn. hmmm .... How hard can that be anyway ?
'reverse snowplow' is right although I had never thought of it like that - I think you are pointing out the same thing CTkook did, the skipping of the initiation of the turn. That is bad - message recieved
I do get the counter-rotation, wanting the hips to match the feet, directionally wise - I guess the part I'm not sure I'm getting is letting the *inside* ski set the edge angle, and managing to keep my hips directly over my skis - would that mean all my anglelation was coming from my knees? (2)
The reverse snow plow is very evident AFTER you've hit the fall-line. That inside ski is being twisted very forcefully. Pause the videos a few times to catch that moment. What do you think about it?(2)
As for letting the inside ski set the edge angle -- you are almost right.
When you stand still, the knees have to angulate to edge, or you fall down. Same when you are at the top of the turn, and don't have a lot of pressure on the skis yet. But as pressure builds, your knees are not strong enough to handle the load, so they'll naturally straighten out, and the angulation will naturally move to your hip.
Counter-rotation is what happens throughout that turn, initially to stop the skis from breaking out of their tracks, and later in the turn to enable the stronger muscles to manage the forces.
The inside ski sets the edge angle in a roundabout way. Have you ever tried a "gunfighter turn"? That's where you start feet about shoulder width apart, start straight downhill, (light blue terrain -- BTW this is just a drill not real skiing), and pretend that your foe has just shot out your inside leg. So you flex it.
What happens is that you fall inside a bit, the outside ski edge catches, and you turn. The tracks will start narrow and get wide. Ride this turn all the way until you go uphill and stop, leaving tracks that look like a banana in the snow (narrow at start and stop, fat in the middle). Do this both ways. Experiment with various rates of flexing the inside leg, and what happens with your edge angles and the curve in the banana.
Remember, the inside leg has been shot. It should get highly flexed, maybe even tucked right under your armpit, but you don't have to go that far to see how flexion of the inside leg is related to the edge angle.
That's one part about what I mean by "inside ski sets the edge angle". The other is actually tipping the edge itself. It's funny how natural it is for the outside ski angle to match the angle of the inside ski.